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                        Canon or Non-Canon?

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                        Woody
                        • Member since
                          December 2002
                        • From: Third rock from the sun.
                        Canon or Non-Canon?
                        Posted by Woody on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 10:53 PM
                        Do any of you Star Trek fans care if a starship is canon or not? I think with it being fiction it doesn't really matter. I like to stick with ships that were on TV, in the movies, or any book. The truth is I like a lot of fan based stuff as well. I'm just getting into Star Trek modeling based on Polar Lights 1/1000 scale and wondered how many of you would scratchbuild an unofficial ship. I ask because I got a rather negative responce from someone about wanting to build a ship that they considered non-canon. Can you guess what my next Trek build is going to be?Tongue [:P]

                        " I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way." --John Paul Jones
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                        midnightprowler
                        • Member since
                          February 2003
                        • From: East Bethel, MN
                        Posted by midnightprowler on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 4:31 AM
                        For myself, I would keep it canon, but it doesn't matter to me what others want to do, I enjoy seeing anything Trek, especially TOS era ships, canon or not.
                        Lee

                        Hi, I am Lee, I am a plastiholic.

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                        John P
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                        • From: Joisey
                        Posted by John P on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 8:04 AM
                        I build canon, I build designs from fandom, and I have a blast kitbashing my own ideas. It's all good.
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 8:46 AM
                        I say do whatever makes you happy, Woody. After all, we're doing this because we like it. Some of the non-canon designs are better than the canon ones. Personally I just like ships that stay with the basic designs. I'm sure there are purists that don't like my carrier, but I'm not building it for them. Now let me see, what might you be building.........Smile [:)]
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                        therriman
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                          January 2003
                        • From: Central MI
                        Posted by therriman on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 9:06 AM
                        Whatever floats your boat Woody. While canon ships are nice. Non-canon ships do often look better. But it's all fiction anyways, so who's to say what belongs or not.

                        Based on previous ships who would have ever predicted they would have a ship as different looking as the "Defiant".
                        Tim H. "If your alone and you meet a Zero, run like hell. Your outnumbered" Capt Joe Foss, Guadalcanal 1942 Real Trucks have 18 wheels. Anything less is just a Toy! I am in shape. Hey, Round is a shape! Reality is a concept not yet proven.
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                        cplchilly
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                          January 2004
                        • From: SO CAL
                        Posted by cplchilly on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 9:06 AM
                        Who cares what others think I do this because its fun and if it doesn't exactly meet with some elses expectations tough! I started out building a star fighter on the other sight but it started looking too trekish and I restarted, but I liked where the original was going so I am going to finish it as a trek project even though its not something from one of the shows.
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                        Woody
                        • Member since
                          December 2002
                        • From: Third rock from the sun.
                        Posted by Woody on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 5:35 PM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by therriman
                        Based on previous ships who would have ever predicted they would have a ship as different looking as the "Defiant".
                        That's funny you should mention the "Defiant". I was surfing the other day and ran across fan drawings of the "Defiant Class" done in TOS style. Very cool!Cool [8D]

                        " I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way." --John Paul Jones
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                        Mikeym_us
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                          March 2004
                        • From: Kincheloe Michigan
                        Posted by Mikeym_us on Thursday, April 1, 2004 1:01 PM
                        also there was a constellation class starship by the name of Defiant the Enterprises sister ship but what about the Daedelaus class starships though. Anyone interested in scratch building one of those or maybe a Saber class

                        On the workbench: Dragon 1/350 scale Ticonderoga class USS BunkerHill 1/720 scale Italeri USS Harry S. Truman 1/72 scale Encore Yak-6

                        The 71st Tactical Fighter Squadron the only Squadron to get an Air to Air kill and an Air to Ground kill in the same week with only a F-15 http://photobucket.com/albums/v332/Mikeym_us/

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                        Woody
                        • Member since
                          December 2002
                        • From: Third rock from the sun.
                        Posted by Woody on Thursday, April 1, 2004 4:22 PM
                        I'm getting the parts ready for a Daedelaus even now. Wink [;)] My three big Scratchbuilds on the horizon are the Daedelaus, the DY-100 freighter "Botany Bay", and the elusive Kobyashu Maru.

                        " I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way." --John Paul Jones
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, April 1, 2004 8:50 PM
                        Be sure to keep a photo log of the builds for "show and tell". All look like interesting scratchbuilds.

                        Speaking of the Saber class, a guy over at the Starship Modeler forums is about to sell a 2500th scale Saber, and then a Vorcha.
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                        Woody
                        • Member since
                          December 2002
                        • From: Third rock from the sun.
                        Posted by Woody on Thursday, April 1, 2004 10:41 PM
                        Is he producing his own kits? I'm thinking about kitting one or more of the three I mentioned. I haven't really started out side of collecting useful materials. By the way I'll be sticking with 1/1000 scale. Which reminds me I recently got a vac Oberth Class to use as reference for a scratchbuild of that ship. The Starfighter Group build has my time right now but I'm having fun with it.Wink [;)]

                        " I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way." --John Paul Jones
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Friday, April 2, 2004 7:50 PM
                        Here's the link to the Vorcha thread:
                        http://www.starshipmodeler.net/cgi-bin/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=15181
                        And the Saber thread:
                        http://www.starshipmodeler.net/cgi-bin/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=14559
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                        Woody
                        • Member since
                          December 2002
                        • From: Third rock from the sun.
                        Posted by Woody on Friday, April 2, 2004 8:24 PM
                        Wow, Very cool ships! The threads author had a link to some of his built kits, did you see the Klingon B-10. I want one.Wink [;)] Thanks for the link Steven. I registered for the forum while I was there. By the way did you get the images I sent you?

                        " I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way." --John Paul Jones
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                        Mikeym_us
                        • Member since
                          March 2004
                        • From: Kincheloe Michigan
                        Posted by Mikeym_us on Friday, April 2, 2004 8:44 PM
                        well i have the StarFleet Battles Klingon B-10

                        On the workbench: Dragon 1/350 scale Ticonderoga class USS BunkerHill 1/720 scale Italeri USS Harry S. Truman 1/72 scale Encore Yak-6

                        The 71st Tactical Fighter Squadron the only Squadron to get an Air to Air kill and an Air to Ground kill in the same week with only a F-15 http://photobucket.com/albums/v332/Mikeym_us/

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                        Woody
                        • Member since
                          December 2002
                        • From: Third rock from the sun.
                        Posted by Woody on Friday, April 2, 2004 9:18 PM
                        Mikey you need to come to my house so we can play SFB! Tongue [:P] I only have one mini, the Heavy Cruiser.

                        " I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way." --John Paul Jones
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                        Woody
                        • Member since
                          December 2002
                        • From: Third rock from the sun.
                        Posted by Woody on Friday, April 2, 2004 9:41 PM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by Woody

                        QUOTE: Originally posted by therriman
                        Based on previous ships who would have ever predicted they would have a ship as different looking as the "Defiant".
                        That's funny you should mention the "Defiant". I was surfing the other day and ran across fan drawings of the "Defiant Class" done in TOS style. Very cool!Cool [8D]
                        Pretty neat, I think.Wink [;)]

                        " I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way." --John Paul Jones
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, April 3, 2004 5:45 PM
                        Woody, I didn't see the link to the B-10. And I did get the pics, thanks. By the way, do I get to come over and play SFB too?!!Smile [:)]
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                        Woody
                        • Member since
                          December 2002
                        • From: Third rock from the sun.
                        Posted by Woody on Saturday, April 3, 2004 7:26 PM
                        The ship was miss labeled as a B-10(Duh...I should have know better). Sorry to missinform you guys. The picture was in the photo album of the guy's build-ups. It was labeled as a B-10 but I think it was a carrier of some type based on a D-7. I thought it looked pretty neat.

                        Yeah Steven come on over, what fleet do you want? I call dibs on the federation!Tongue [:P]

                        " I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way." --John Paul Jones
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                        djrost_2000
                        • Member since
                          February 2003
                        • From: Where the coyote howl, NH
                        Posted by djrost_2000 on Saturday, April 3, 2004 7:36 PM
                        Another SFB player right hereBig Smile [:D]!

                        DJ
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                        Mikeym_us
                        • Member since
                          March 2004
                        • From: Kincheloe Michigan
                        Posted by Mikeym_us on Saturday, April 3, 2004 8:18 PM
                        well as i said i only have 4 ships and i was lucky to get those since the hobby shop i go to was getting out of the miniatues trade and focusing on models and RC only and im trying to get hold of 2 federation ships maybe if i go somewhere in downstate Michigan i can find more ships or else someone can sell me their entire collection for under 100 bucks :P

                        On the workbench: Dragon 1/350 scale Ticonderoga class USS BunkerHill 1/720 scale Italeri USS Harry S. Truman 1/72 scale Encore Yak-6

                        The 71st Tactical Fighter Squadron the only Squadron to get an Air to Air kill and an Air to Ground kill in the same week with only a F-15 http://photobucket.com/albums/v332/Mikeym_us/

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                        djrost_2000
                        • Member since
                          February 2003
                        • From: Where the coyote howl, NH
                        Posted by djrost_2000 on Saturday, April 3, 2004 8:50 PM
                        Michigan is too far for me, but I'd love to play by e-mail. It will be awhile before I am ready to play again anyway. Haven't owned a copy of the game in over 10 years. Will be checking ebay probably in a few months. Oh well. But in the distant future I'd love to play by e-mail.

                        DJ
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                        Woody
                        • Member since
                          December 2002
                        • From: Third rock from the sun.
                        Posted by Woody on Saturday, April 3, 2004 9:55 PM
                        You don't need miniatures to play. The game comes with counters. You can still buy the game and miniatures brand new at the Starfleet store. Email play sounds fun because I won't live in MI for another year! Wink [;)]

                        " I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way." --John Paul Jones
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, April 3, 2004 11:57 PM
                        Star Trek has been out with enough series that there is a whole sudo science.

                        I have seen plenty of designs that people thought were cool looking but would not work using star trek science.

                        But no one is stopping you from coming up with your own ideas. Look at the Akira-prise.

                        Also look at Wolf 359. STNG pull out all their junk models to make their battlefield.
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                        djrost_2000
                        • Member since
                          February 2003
                        • From: Where the coyote howl, NH
                        Posted by djrost_2000 on Sunday, April 4, 2004 12:29 AM
                        Okay Woody, when I'm ready to play I'll make a post in this forum trolling for e-mail opponents. It might be best to use something like Cyberboard because you can do your' dice rolls via computer with no chance to cheat (unless you reprogram the thing like James Kirk would doBig Smile [:D] (I don't know much about programming)). Thanks for pointing me to Starfleet store.

                        DJ
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                        Woody
                        • Member since
                          December 2002
                        • From: Third rock from the sun.
                        Posted by Woody on Sunday, April 4, 2004 4:27 AM
                        No problem! Big Smile [:D] Here is a link for anyone wanting 20% off their SFB minis box sets. Wink [;)] http://www.expansegaming.com/starfleet_battles.htm

                        " I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way." --John Paul Jones
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, April 4, 2004 10:06 AM
                        I'll take the Hydrans, gotta love that Hellbore!
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                        Woody
                        • Member since
                          December 2002
                        • From: Third rock from the sun.
                        Posted by Woody on Sunday, April 4, 2004 12:51 PM
                        Hellbore !. . . . ouchTongue [:P]

                        " I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way." --John Paul Jones
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                        Mikeym_us
                        • Member since
                          March 2004
                        • From: Kincheloe Michigan
                        Posted by Mikeym_us on Sunday, April 4, 2004 2:12 PM
                        thank god that online store is in Michigan it should not take me long to get those miniatures i got 6 ships in my basket ill order them tommorow or Tuesday and i just started painting my klingon ships in the movie colors

                        On the workbench: Dragon 1/350 scale Ticonderoga class USS BunkerHill 1/720 scale Italeri USS Harry S. Truman 1/72 scale Encore Yak-6

                        The 71st Tactical Fighter Squadron the only Squadron to get an Air to Air kill and an Air to Ground kill in the same week with only a F-15 http://photobucket.com/albums/v332/Mikeym_us/

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                        Woody
                        • Member since
                          December 2002
                        • From: Third rock from the sun.
                        Posted by Woody on Sunday, April 4, 2004 6:25 PM
                        Are you going to post pics of your finished minis?

                        " I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way." --John Paul Jones
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                        Mikeym_us
                        • Member since
                          March 2004
                        • From: Kincheloe Michigan
                        Posted by Mikeym_us on Sunday, April 4, 2004 6:57 PM
                        ill try to do that

                        On the workbench: Dragon 1/350 scale Ticonderoga class USS BunkerHill 1/720 scale Italeri USS Harry S. Truman 1/72 scale Encore Yak-6

                        The 71st Tactical Fighter Squadron the only Squadron to get an Air to Air kill and an Air to Ground kill in the same week with only a F-15 http://photobucket.com/albums/v332/Mikeym_us/

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