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Posted by Greg on Tuesday, July 9, 2019 9:36 AM

Enjoyed reading your thoughts on planning.......and not.

gregbale
...but it only gets done when I forget the 'theoretical' ideal of perfection and just dive in and start fiddling

Isn't the truth. I agree. I know that. Yet I still have a heck of a time with the "just dive in" part. Smile

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Posted by gregbale on Tuesday, July 9, 2019 8:53 AM

Thanks as always for the kind words. Big Smile

Greg
Perhaps most enligtening to me is that you really had no plan, one thing sort of led to another and you ended up with a really nice looking model. It is helpful knowing all good results didn't start with a definitive plan. This might sound stupidly obvious to most, but I tend to overthink everything so not so much for me.

To be honest, I mulled it over quite a bit...to the point of considering scanning the panel pattern and trying to make it 'radial' in some drawing program...but if I've learned anything from my years of modeling, it's that I can 'think about' stuff endlessly...but it only gets done when I forget the 'theoretical' ideal of perfection and just dive in and start fiddling. It never comes out perfectly--what ever does?--but as in this case, sometimes if I just bumble forward, I'm pleasantly surprised by the results.

As to 'plans' in general...I'm always reminded of the exchange between Bill Murray and Harold Ramis in Stripes:

"I have a plan."

"Great. Custer had a plan, too."

Greg

George Lewis:

"Every time you correct me on my grammar I love you a little fewer."
 
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Posted by Greg on Tuesday, July 9, 2019 8:28 AM

You did good, that really turned out well.

I don't do well breaking up large, otherwise boring surfaces and it was very interesting to follow your process here. Perhaps most enligtening to me is that you really had no plan, one thing sort of led to another and you ended up with a really nice looking model.

It is helpful knowing all good results didn't start with a definitive plan. This might sound stupidly obvious to most, but I tend to overthink everything so not so much for me.

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Posted by gregbale on Tuesday, July 9, 2019 7:33 AM

GlennH
Just a thanks. Your power beams/lucite rods pic brought my smile of the morning on.

Big SmileYes

Greg

George Lewis:

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Posted by GlennH on Tuesday, July 9, 2019 7:25 AM
Just a thanks. Your power beams/lucite rods pic brought my smile of the morning on.

A number Army Viet Nam scans from hundreds yet to be done:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/southwestdreams/albums/72157621855914355

Have had the great fortune to be on every side of the howitzers.

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Posted by goldhammer on Tuesday, May 21, 2019 11:05 PM

Oh yeah...Area 51 backdrop in your future

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Posted by gregbale on Tuesday, May 21, 2019 9:34 PM

Nino
Thanks for Posting this. And I vote for leaving it as is with the decals as the final finish. It looks great! Nino

Thanks, Nino!

I think I will leave it as-is: despite how rough it looks, it's kind of grown on me.Big Smile

I haven't actually pulled the TR-3E out of the box in a while, but as I recall it's in about the same size range, 3-4 inches. (This one, the EVE, is exactly 3" in diameter).

I have enough of the plating decals left, not sure if I'll use them or go for something different. Some kind of fleet insignia might be in order...but not sure whether it will be the Aliens or the 'Home Team!'

[And the chain-link fence & sign is a great idea...wish it had occurred to me! Maybe it's time for a new photo backdrop for all my 'black' projects. AlienAlienAlien]

Greg

George Lewis:

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Posted by Nino on Tuesday, May 21, 2019 9:26 PM

gregbale

I picked up Atlantis Models' Flying Saucer E.V.E. ('Exploration Vehicle of Earth'...in precise 1/864 scale)

 

 

 

Greg,

 That is a really nice model. Your work makes it look like an expensive model with many many parts, way more than just an upper and lower "Hull".

Excellent idea on the lucite for a stand too.

     These simple little UFO/Science Fiction space craft models look to be fun. It would seem that many of them are also in a similar "precise" scale, with 1/144 listed most often;  if you believe the Box.  So, how big is that Tr-3E UFO model? Do you have any of those cool decals left to use on it?

     Also, That is an excellent choice in background for your Photo's. All you needed was a chainlink fence and a " deadly force is authorised" sign.

  Thanks for Posting this.  And I vote for leaving it as is with the decals as the final finish. It looks great!

    Nino

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Posted by gregbale on Tuesday, May 21, 2019 9:05 PM

Pardon the grainy phone photos...but they're about as unimpressive as the lighting effect itself is:

It's a sequence of red, green and yellow lights...fixed in position...but the problem is that the red LEDs are about 3x as bright as the other two colors, so it sort of throws the whole effect off-kilter.

Here are some links to the equally-unimpressive videos:

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Greg

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Posted by gregbale on Tuesday, May 21, 2019 6:11 PM

Hmmm...hadn't thought about it, but it might be an interesting challenge.

I'll get back to you....

Greg

George Lewis:

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Posted by mrmike on Tuesday, May 21, 2019 6:04 PM

That's fun! Are you going to post any nighttime shots with the little battery powered light effect? 

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Posted by goldhammer on Tuesday, May 21, 2019 12:06 PM

For just fooling around and experimenting.....color me impressed, well done.

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Posted by gregbale on Tuesday, May 21, 2019 11:47 AM

Gamera
And guess I'll wait for a review of the new MiB movie. Guess I'm weird, I actually liked the third one, seems like I'm one of the few that did.

Me too. I thought casting Josh Brolin as a younger Tommy Lee Jones was nothing short of brilliant!

Greg

George Lewis:

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Posted by gregbale on Tuesday, May 21, 2019 11:43 AM

Tanker - Builder

Ah , Greg;

 What a breath or fresh model building .Very nicely done! T.B.

 

Thanks, TB!

(That's the first time in a long time anything about my work has been called 'fresh'.... Big Smile)

Greg

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Posted by Tanker - Builder on Tuesday, May 21, 2019 11:34 AM

Ah , Greg;

 What a breath or fresh model building .Very nicely done! T.B.

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Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, May 21, 2019 11:33 AM

Oh, ok, but the results look really good! You should have claimed you'd done it on purpose! 

Looking forward to seeing how you do the small saucer. 

 

And guess I'll wait for a review of the new MiB movie. Guess I'm weird, I actually liked the third one, seems like I'm one of the few that did. 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by gregbale on Tuesday, May 21, 2019 9:15 AM

Gamera
I'd have never thought of just laying the decals on straight like that. Did you make any cuts to help it lay down flat over the curved surface of the 'saucer'?

It was mostly just an act of sheer frustration! Tongue Tied

I ended up splitting the 'outboard' strips at the mid-line, just so the 'boomerang curve' effect wouldn't be quite so obvious. Luckily I had enough forethought to leave a clear 'line' in the plating pattern at that point, so I didn't end up cutting through the pattern 'blocks' themselves.

New MIB film coming out....AlienBalloons

Greg

George Lewis:

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Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, May 21, 2019 8:45 AM

Hmmmm, that's very cool Greg! I'd have never thought of just laying the decals on straight like that. Did you make any cuts to help it lay down flat over the curved surface of the 'saucer'? 

 

 

BTW: If your post disappears I'll know what happened...

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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FLYING SAUCER sighting....
Posted by gregbale on Monday, May 20, 2019 10:15 PM

I picked up Atlantis Models' Flying Saucer E.V.E. ('Exploration Vehicle of Earth'...in precise 1/864 scale) on an impulse when it was first released. It's a nicely-molded two-piece 'kit'...comprising only an upper and a lower saucer half, with a rather lame little tripod base...which also came with a gimmicky little battery-powered lighting insert to provide a multi-colored 'spinning' effect visible through the translucent plastic of the lower half.

The delicate molded detail seemed too nice just to cover up with some solid metallic shade...and too finicky to be able to detail-paint neatly...so the kit sort of languished. I'd pull it out every once in a while and fiddle with the lighting insert...and scan the internet for inspiring ideas for finishing it...then back on the pile it would go.

The last time I pulled it out I vowed to at least start experimenting on it. I accented that lovely molded detail with an overall application of Tamiya 'Black Panel Line Color,' thinking maybe a semi-transparent mist of some metallic steel shade on top would show just enough of the accented texture to look cool. But what happened surprised me: the enamel-based accent color--over the nice texturing and the translucent whitish-green plastic--gave a sort of 'bronze-ish' look to the whole thing, with a subtle but very appealing (and slightly 'not of this earth') metallic sheen.

Now we were cooking with gas.

The next impulse took me to some long-unused decals sitting in my collection: PNT Models 'Hull Plating' decals in gray [available from Federation Models]. These are similar to the well-known Trek 'Aztec' patterns...just rendered in a generic form suitable for name-your-own project.

I first struggled with trying to figure out how to turn these very 'linear' patterns into something 'radial,' more suitable to a disc...but finally threw in the towel. This was an experiment, and I figured I might end up stripping the thing and re-doing it anyway, so just decided to press on, laying the pattern strips 'front to back.'

I really liked the way it turned out:

 The distinct brownish cast of the 'gray' used to print the decals worked perfectly with the 'bronze-y' look of the wash. Even occasional overlaps of the decals look like 'space weathering' picked up in the intestellar (inter-dimensional?) void, or experienced while entering the atmosphere at impossible velocities. The subtle plating pattern itself sort of gives the impression of strange alien glyphs written on antiqued parchment...a look much more 'otherworldly' than I could have intentionally planned.

Still haven't decided whether to leave it as-is, or strip it and try for a neater presentation of the same effect. For the moment I'm satisfied to have it hovering over my bookshelf, perched on the taller lucite-rod base I made to replace the the kit's sad little inch-and-a-half 'upside-down footstool' piece.

I also have another of Atlantis's tiny UFO's waiting in the pile...the triangular TR-3E (the one said to be based on an above-top-secret alien-technology craft being operated by our own military); I may just put that in USAF markings...or use some of the early 'Star Trek era' markings I have left over from an earlier project.

Keep watching the skies....

Greg

George Lewis:

"Every time you correct me on my grammar I love you a little fewer."
 
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