"Trekkie" or "Trekker"

Anonymous

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November 2005

"Trekkie" or "Trekker"

Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, April 10, 2004 8:00 AM

Is there a preference and why? Question [?]

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therriman

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January 2003
From: Central MI

Posted by therriman on Saturday, April 10, 2004 9:42 AM

Not by me. Either one describes me.

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Woody

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December 2002
From: Third rock from the sun.

Posted by Woody on Saturday, April 10, 2004 12:17 PM

I have always liked Trekkie. My 2 cents [2c]

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, April 10, 2004 1:54 PM

Rumor has it that after Star Wars, "Trekkie" became a generic term to identify any Sci-Fi fan in the media. Up till them, it only identified Trek Fans. Then in an effort to get away from the grouping, the term "Trekker" was started by a group of fans to identify trek fans only.

As for me, I was a Trekkie since the first day of Star Trek and still call myself one. I even got to be in the Movie "Trekkies" but I wouldn't recommend anyone waste any of their mony on buying or renting it. Denise Crosby seemed to only focus on the extreme outer reaches of the fans, and neglected to point out all the community service that many of the fans and clubs perform. Rather she made it out that we all have a screw loose. We do of course, but we don't need her pointing it out. Big Smile [:D]

Don

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Rob Gronovius

Member since
December 2002
From: Fort Knox

Posted by Rob Gronovius on Saturday, April 10, 2004 5:12 PM

I've heard it described this way:

A Trekkie can tell you how a phaser works.

A Trekker will shoot you with it.

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, April 10, 2004 7:18 PM

I like that, Rob. Nicely put. I'll take the latter. Smile [:)]

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paulnchamp

Member since
January 2003
From: Warwick, RI

Posted by paulnchamp on Saturday, April 10, 2004 9:30 PM

I've heard it described this way: a Trekkie goes to conventions and dresses up like a character. A Trekker is a serious fan who is more into it for the concepts, ideas, theories, hardware, etc. and is generally considered more "respectable." Trekkers like to think that Trekkies give them a bad name.

As for me, I've been to a number of Star Trek conventions and seen both types in action, and I think this pretty well sums it up. By the way, I'm a Trekker.
Paul

Paul "A man's GOT to know his limitations."

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, April 10, 2004 10:24 PM

I guess using Paul's definition I am a "Trekker". I've been there from the beginning. I remember waiting for the end of "Beat the Clock" and sit down and watch Star Trek. I built, yes "built" the original issued Enterprise kit with the LEDs. Loved that kit. It got trashed by my parents. I was lucky enough a few years ago to come across woman who said her son was a real Star Trek Fan and had recently passed away. She had a large box of Trek stuff including 10 of the original kits! They were built but the glue did not hold them together and they were unpainted, but he had glued on paper numbers to the ship . Before the owner of the Model Shop got them, I had was able to get one of them. I stripped it clean. It is in great shape and in its individual pieces. I have also one of the new Enterprise kits (NCC-1701 re-issue) and compared the parts and assembly. Still I don't know if I should build it.

I still love them Trekkies though. Keep building.
Tony

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philp

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December 2002
From: USA

Posted by philp on Saturday, April 10, 2004 10:59 PM

Paul's description is the one that I have heard also.
Which would make me a Trekker with Trekkie tendencies (any pic of me in uniform is obviously tampered with).

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midnightprowler

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February 2003
From: East Bethel, MN

Posted by midnightprowler on Sunday, April 11, 2004 6:56 AM

By paul's definition, I am a trekker, but I also have trekkie tendencies, but I am mostly TOS.
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Aurora-7

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December 2002
From: Connecticut, USA

Posted by Aurora-7 on Sunday, April 11, 2004 9:32 AM

Treker, as Paul described.

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John P

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February 2003
From: Joisey

Posted by John P on Sunday, April 11, 2004 9:40 AM

QUOTE: Originally posted by paulnchamp

I've heard it described this way: a Trekkie goes to conventions and dresses up like a character. A Trekker is a serious fan who is more into it for the concepts, ideas, theories, hardware, etc. and is generally considered more "respectable." Trekkers like to think that Trekkies give them a bad name.

And that is exactly why I DESPISE the word "Trekker." What ever happened to IDIC, folks? The whole concept of Trek in the beginning was that in the future, we'd all live together without letting our differences divide us. In fact, we embrace those differences and celebrate the beauty created by them working in harmony. So along comes a sub-group of the very people that are supposed to embrace this notion, and they create their own identity and claim to be superior to the rest of the geeks. Well screw them and the targ they rode in on! No Star Trek fan is better than any other Star Trek fan, folks. We're in it together.

I'm a Trekkie. I've been a Trekkie since 1966. Deal with it.

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cmtaylor

Member since
February 2003
From: United Kingdom

Posted by cmtaylor on Sunday, April 11, 2004 9:42 AM

I used to be Membership secretary of an SF/Star Trek Fan club and I found the Trekkies were a serious embarassment, particularly as a number of us were trying to alter media perceptions of SF fans as sad losers with no lives. Of course, beyond Trekkies are the sad specimens who treat Trek as a religion.

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J-Hulk

Member since
February 2003
From: Tochigi, Japan

Posted by J-Hulk on Sunday, April 11, 2004 9:46 AM

Cripes, if fans of Star Trek can't get along, who can??

~Brian

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, April 11, 2004 10:14 AM

QUOTE: Originally posted by J-Hulk

Cripes, if fans of Star Trek can't get along, who can??

I think "The Firms" Captain Kirk said it best.

"We come in Peace, Shoot to Kill, Men!" Big Smile [:D]

Don

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RogueJ

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March 2003
From: Right Behind You

Posted by RogueJ on Sunday, April 11, 2004 10:53 AM

Ich bin ein Trekker.

Rogue

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, April 11, 2004 1:36 PM

A aperson who refers to themselves as a "TreKkor" is a truely intense "Trekkie"! It's the level of pretension that really tips the scale.

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Woody

Member since
December 2002
From: Third rock from the sun.

Posted by Woody on Sunday, April 11, 2004 4:14 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by John P

QUOTE: Originally posted by paulnchamp

I've heard it described this way: a Trekkie goes to conventions and dresses up like a character. A Trekker is a serious fan who is more into it for the concepts, ideas, theories, hardware, etc. and is generally considered more "respectable." Trekkers like to think that Trekkies give them a bad name.

And that is exactly why I DESPISE the word "Trekker." What ever happened to IDIC, folks? The whole concept of Trek in the beginning was that in the future, we'd all live together without letting our differences divide us. In fact, we embrace those differences and celebrate the beauty created by them working in harmony. So along comes a sub-group of the very people that are supposed to embrace this notion, and they create their own identity and claim to be superior to the rest of the geeks. Well screw them and the targ they rode in on! No Star Trek fan is better than any other Star Trek fan, folks. We're in it together.

I'm a Trekkie. I've been a Trekkie since 1966. Deal with it.

QUOTE:

Well put John. Approve [^]

That is the trouble with labels, people start to believe the propaganda attached to them. I don't care what a Star Trek fan calls themself, we are all Trekkies in my eyes. Wink [;)]

" I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way." --John Paul Jones

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paulnchamp

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January 2003
From: Warwick, RI

Posted by paulnchamp on Sunday, April 11, 2004 9:57 PM

If I may quote the ever-logical Spock: Evil [}:)]

"I was not attempting to evaluate its moral implications. . . " (STII:TWOK)

and on another, earlier occasion:
"I do NOT approve - I UNDERSTAND." ("A Taste of Armageddon" TOS)

That would pretty much sum up how I feel. I wasn't trying to offend anyone;
just trying to offer a definition. John P: put the phaser down, please![:0]

Paul "A man's GOT to know his limitations."

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, April 11, 2004 10:18 PM

Ok. I get it. Let's not start another Dominion, Cardassian, Romulan or Klingon War. (Hey what happened to "peace" in the Galaxy and such.)

Never give up, Never surrender. Damn the photons boys and go at it.

I only asked for a definition since I heard many of them before. Discussion is good. Trek fans lets shake. Both types of fans are just .... great fans!

Ok - back to the forum.

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John P

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February 2003
From: Joisey

Posted by John P on Monday, April 12, 2004 7:02 AM

We are all "Star Trek Fans."

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Monday, April 12, 2004 9:56 AM

When I heard that some "trekkies" preferred to be called "trekkers" I thought that it make them look even more weird. I've been a fan my whole life and have many books/models/videos etc. but conventions and opening night at the movie theater scare me. Trekkers are trekkies that don't want to be thought of as weird. Guess what? you're just as weird at the guys who paint their faces and put cheese on their heads. As Malcom Mcdowell said in "v" "Normal is what everyone else is and you're not!"

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cassibill

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February 2003
From: Indiana, USA

Posted by cassibill on Monday, April 12, 2004 11:49 AM

Be good or I'll be forced to recite all the episode titles in order from memory. I mean ALL, animated and unfilmed Phase II included. Yes I'm a Trekkie.

cdw My life flashes before my eyes and it mostly my life flashing before my eyes!!! Big Smile The 1/144 scale census and message board: http://144scalelist.freewebpage.org/index.html

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paulnchamp

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January 2003
From: Warwick, RI

Posted by paulnchamp on Monday, April 12, 2004 10:12 PM

Cassibill! You're late! What took you so long to get to this thread?? Wink [;)]

Paul "A man's GOT to know his limitations."

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Woody

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From: Third rock from the sun.

Posted by Woody on Monday, April 12, 2004 11:01 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by John P

We are all "Star Trek Fans."

Truer words were never spoken! Your logic in flawless John. Wink [;)]

" I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way." --John Paul Jones

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cassibill

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February 2003
From: Indiana, USA

Posted by cassibill on Wednesday, April 14, 2004 4:27 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by paulnchamp

Cassibill! You're late! What took you so long to get to this thread??

First time on a computer since Fri afternoon, that's why. Start at top of active topics and go down. Class was out at 11 and a few conversation later I got online.
"If you post Trek, she will come."

cdw My life flashes before my eyes and it mostly my life flashing before my eyes!!! Big Smile The 1/144 scale census and message board: http://144scalelist.freewebpage.org/index.html

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wipw

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January 2003
From: Utah - USA

Posted by wipw on Wednesday, April 14, 2004 4:41 PM

Back in the "old" days around the release of the first movie, I heard it told that the term "Trekkie" had become a demeaning term to refer to refer to "Star Trek is all there is in the world" types. So the fans came up with the term Trekker. I'm a loyal fan (except for DS9!), but don't live, eat and breath Star Trek.

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cassibill

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February 2003
From: Indiana, USA

Posted by cassibill on Wednesday, April 14, 2004 5:16 PM

Well Bill, being a Trekkie I do eat, sleep and breathe Trek. (Even DS9, as of last Tues. I own all 7 seasons on DVD. Still ticked about them not having a feature on EZRI Dax/Nichole DeBoer. Every other member of the main cast got one. SoapBox [soapbox]

getting off now...) MMMmmm... starting next week Enterprise will be new!!

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Woody

Member since
December 2002
From: Third rock from the sun.

Posted by Woody on Wednesday, April 14, 2004 6:07 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by cassibill

being a Trekkie I do eat, sleep and breathe Trek. (Even DS9, as of last Tues. I own all 7 seasons on DVD).

Great! When are you having a Trek party? I'll bring the Romulan ale. Wink [;)]

" I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way." --John Paul Jones

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cassibill

Member since
February 2003
From: Indiana, USA

Posted by cassibill on Thursday, April 15, 2004 1:32 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by Woody

QUOTE: Originally posted by cassibill

being a Trekkie I do eat, sleep and breathe Trek. (Even DS9, as of last Tues. I own all 7 seasons on DVD).

Great! When are you having a Trek party? I'll bring the Romulan ale.

hmmm.... missed First Contact day... Takei's birthday is next Tuesday but that not the right circumstance...Mulgrew's B-Day is the 29th, wrong series again...The 5th of May is Marc Alaimo's but it confict's with Enterprise...5/23 is 10 yrs since NG series fin and 3 since Voy...
This is difficult.

cdw My life flashes before my eyes and it mostly my life flashing before my eyes!!! Big Smile The 1/144 scale census and message board: http://144scalelist.freewebpage.org/index.html

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