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USS Moscow progress pics (part III).

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USS Moscow progress pics (part III).
Posted by Woody on Thursday, September 30, 2004 11:17 PM
Hey guys, I have been making a little progress and would like to share a few pics. About all I have left to do are the nacelle pylons and detail work.
If you are just now seeing my Baton Rouge class starship project, you can find part one here http://www.finescale.com/fsm/community/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=24894 and part two here http://www.finescale.com/fsm/community/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=26688.


As I showed before the secondary hull was constructed of stacked pieces cut from the 1/8th" thick styrene I like to use. This left the edges of those forms needing to be covered. I turned to my tried and true homemade putty. I mixed up the batch on the left just for this project and used the same styrene the model is made out of. The jar on the right contains my regular brew made from cheap styrene silverware.



The next two images show the prototype after I've "frosted" all the areas I needed filled. I then set it aside for about four days for the putty to harden up fully. The beauty of this method is that I now have a solid and very sturdy chunk of styrene instead of dissimiliar materials that scribe differently.




Experts in the exciting field of "Styrenetology" agree that four out of five Star Trek scratchbuilders chose Sportcraft ping pong balls for their deflector dish fabricating needs. Tongue [:P]



These are the pieces that will come together to form the detail behind the deflector dish.



. . . and loosely stacked to give an idea what they will look like when finished.



In this picture you can see the dish made from a section of ping pong ball. I used a drafting divider to scribe the rings in it and the part that goes behind it. The styrene rod with tube stock glued onto it will yeild the spike for the dish.



When is a Dremel a lathe? When you use it to turn small parts by spinning them against a nail shaping stick.



. . . and the finished spike.



All the parts come together and form the deflector dish assembly.




Here is a shot of the major parts less the nacelles and their struts.



These next couple pictures are to show how this little monster will all fit together.




Looky, looky what Uncle Micro-Mark sent me! Looks like somebody is going to be doing some casting. Big Smile [:D]



Thanks for looking in on my little project. I would love to hear your thoughts and ideas on this project. Wink [;)] How does everybody feel about my treatment of the underside and deflector dish area?

By the way all the support and comments from everyone has been a big part of my enjoyment of this project, Thank you.

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Posted by modelnut on Friday, October 1, 2004 12:22 PM
Big Smile [:D]Big Smile [:D]Big Smile [:D]

COOOOL!

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Posted by Buddho on Friday, October 1, 2004 5:48 PM
WoW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, October 1, 2004 6:10 PM
Lookin' great!!
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, October 1, 2004 6:45 PM
The idea of using a Dremel as a lathe never occurred to me, that maybe dang near genius! You can bet I'll be adding that little trick to my tool chest! The dish looks great!
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, October 1, 2004 8:57 PM
I like how the slab-sided rear of the secondary hull narrows down to the front deflector.
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Posted by maxx1969 on Friday, October 1, 2004 11:36 PM
Woody you have created a master piece! NOW WHEN IS IT AVAILABLE???Dinner [dinner]Big Smile [:D]

Matt
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Posted by Woody on Saturday, October 2, 2004 1:00 AM
Thank you everybody. We have great support in this little Sci-Fi community. Approve [^] You guys are A # 1 in my book.. Wink [;)]

QUOTE: Originally posted by LeeJustin

The idea of using a Dremel as a lathe never occurred to me, that maybe dang near genius! You can bet I'll be adding that little trick to my tool chest! The dish looks great!

I know I used a nail shaper in the example but jewelers files work great too. If you try it, use light pressure and don't let heat build up in the part your turning. I also support the piece by gently applying pressure with my thumb while holding the cutting tool/shaper in my four fingers. You sort of pinch the piece between the tool and your thumb while holding the Dremel in your off hand. This also gives you feedback on how much heat is building up in the part.

QUOTE: Originally posted by Masao

I like how the slab-sided rear of the secondary hull narrows down to the front deflector.

Yeah that is the one area I was most concerned with. The drawings I came across with the deflector dish on a post and the forward bottom edge severly sloping back just didn't look right to me. I wanted the deflector to look like it was designed to fit the ship from the beginning.

QUOTE: Originally posted by maxx1969

Woody you have created a master piece! NOW WHEN IS IT AVAILABLE???Dinner [dinner]Big Smile [:D]

Matt

I still have a lot of fine detail to finish yet. I'm not looking forward to gluing on all those cooling fins on the warp nacelles. LOL

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, October 2, 2004 12:20 PM
Hubba Hubba!!!!!!!

Excellent work, Woodsmann

I love the way you scribed the details on the dish. Makes me wanna adopt itTongue [:P]

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Posted by Woody on Tuesday, October 5, 2004 7:52 PM
Thanks Rio, Are you making any progress on your Daedalus project?

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Posted by SNOOPY on Thursday, October 7, 2004 11:47 AM
Woody, I back with questions,again. How is your putty made (styrene + laquer thinner)? This looks great. I have been impressed with the whole build. Thanks for keeping us updated along the way. I really enjoyed watching all of this Star Trek group build. I will keep watching to find out what the next group build will be. FANTASTIC!!!!
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Posted by Woody on Thursday, October 7, 2004 5:29 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by SNOOPY

Woody, I back with questions,again. How is your putty made (styrene + laquer thinner)?


Hey Snoopy! My putty is made of styrene and M.E.K. . I like to use clear styrene for most of my putty. Plastic silverware is a good source of cheap styrene. You can get M.E.K. at Home Depot for about $3 to $4 and it is basicly the same thing as Tenax-7 at a fraction of the cost so you can save some money on liquid cement also. Wink [;)]

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Posted by maxx1969 on Thursday, October 14, 2004 3:22 PM
Hey Woody have you started any casting yet???Tongue [:P] I am you know more than available for a test build...in the name of market research and all.Laugh [(-D]

Matt
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Posted by Woody on Thursday, October 14, 2004 4:48 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by maxx1969

Hey Woody have you started any casting yet???Tongue [:P] I am you know more than available for a test build...in the name of market research and all.Laugh [(-D]

I had to put up my modeling supplies for a couple weeks while my wifes family is visiting from Idaho. Seems she didn't want my tool boxes and supplies in her dinning room! They are going home tomorrow. Wink [;)]Approve [^]
Market research you say? Hmmmmmm. Laugh [(-D] Seriously though, I will be happy beyond words to see kits I've produced built up by fellow ST fans. Cool [8D]

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Posted by fightnjoe on Saturday, October 16, 2004 11:29 AM
woody i am simply amazed at the work you have done on this. outstanding.


joe

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Posted by Woody on Saturday, October 16, 2004 9:06 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by fightnjoe

woody i am simply amazed at the work you have done on this. outstanding.
joe

Thank you but it's not all that amazing just good planning. Wink [;)] Plastic is a wonderful material that lends itself to being easily shaped and formed. I hope you are still going to give scratchbuilding a try. It's not as hard to do as it seems on the surface but the rewarding feeling you get can't be explained in words, you have to experience it.

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Posted by fightnjoe on Saturday, October 16, 2004 9:58 PM
the plan is there. the drawings are on my cpu. now to get the nerve to begin it.


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Posted by Woody on Sunday, November 7, 2004 2:51 PM
Things are starting to settle down here so I've gotten a little more done this weekend.
I have decided to start with the saucer section and finish it before I move onto the next part. The final details of the upper side of the saucer were scribed this morning and the bridge module was finally attached. After I finish and install the sensor pallet, the saucer will be officially finished!
The engineering section only lacks the attachment points for the warp nacelle pylons. Other than that I finished the secondary hull earlier this week.
Bussard collector domes, pylon attachment points and cooling fins will finish up the nacelles. I'm getting close and it's really starting to all come together.Smile [:)]

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 7, 2004 3:14 PM
Nice to hear, Woody. Can't wait to see her finished. I managed to put more primer on the Ranger yesterday. It just brought out more spots to putty!Banged Head [banghead]. I'll keep at it. Can't wait to finally paint it.
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Posted by Woody on Sunday, November 7, 2004 3:44 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by StevenQ

I managed to put more primer on the Ranger yesterday. It just brought out more spots to putty!Banged Head [banghead]. I'll keep at it. Can't wait to finally paint it.

I was in that place with my secondary hull last week. Just keep telling yourself that this is what you do for fun and relaxation. Wink [;)] Tongue [:P]

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 7, 2004 8:28 PM
I thought there was a light at the end of the tunnel, but it was turned off due to budget cuts! Big Smile [:D]
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Posted by Woody on Sunday, November 7, 2004 9:21 PM
Propeller [8-]Laugh [(-D] you should pay that bill. Tongue [:P]

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Posted by modelnut on Monday, November 8, 2004 1:16 PM
Naaa.

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Posted by Woody on Wednesday, November 10, 2004 6:39 PM
Hip Hip Horay !
The USS Moscows saucer section is Done! Big Smile [:D]
Only thing between me and a finished set of resin casting masters is warp nacelle pylons, bussard collectors, and cooling fins for those pesky warp engines. Wink [;)]

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Posted by maxx1969 on Wednesday, November 10, 2004 8:09 PM
Way to go WoodyParty [party] I can't wait to see pics.Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by Woody on Saturday, December 26, 2009 1:41 PM

Sorry to bump this one up but I just found it again and somebody wanted to see a few week ago.


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