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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, February 21, 2005 7:47 PM
go to currell graphics and check out some free cardstock airship models,these can be modified to represent "what if" airships.I have modified a couple to represent SF models.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, February 21, 2005 3:35 AM
The tissue would be covered with "dope" like how many R/C aircraft are made, or there's plastics you could use to cover the model as well. Both methods would shrink, be lightweight, and you could handle either. Look into it. Wink [;)]
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Posted by CorMak on Monday, February 21, 2005 3:30 AM

Yolev - Not planing on creating flying models (thought that would be cool.) Weight is really only an issue for handling, and perhaps for mounting (hanging.) I'm imagining modles measured in feet, not inches - kind of like Kev's thinking (okay, maybe only one foot, or a few feet for me...)

Vacu-form is out of the question - don't have one, not much budget, and no place for one right now. Heck, I don't even have an airbrush! I've been out of modeling for about 16 years, and have really only been reading FSM, buying kits, and dreaming...

I'll be doing some small kits while I plan things. Mostly some small scale armour, and maybe some aircraft. I also want to do a few figures. But, I want to start wrapping my mind around what is needed to create the airship, and looking for thoughts and ideas on the subject in general.

Since I have no experience with balsa, I'll probably stick with styrene rod. I was thinking of styrene sheets for the covering, but was wondering on other ideas. Tissue seems like a bad idea for me - I probably couldn't handle it without creating a mess and still not have a cover for an airship. Foil would probably be difficult also, for wrinklles and such. Still like the idea of wax paper - if I can figure out how to use it correctly. But, thin styrene sheets might be best, and easiest.

What is rag paper like Stratmore's Graphic 360? Sounds like artists' supplies.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, February 20, 2005 9:20 PM
Cormak--

having a great love for airships...mainly the Graf Zeppelin...

I'm in the process of research... to create a BIG model...

hopes to be 8 feet long.

I was going to create the underlying structure with styrene structure pieces from Plastruc, and then cover that with .10 styrene...or maybe a rag paper like Stratmore's Graphic 360.

I wish you luck and can't wait to see more.

Kev
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, February 20, 2005 6:09 PM
Okay.. dumb question time. (I am getting really good at asking these)Big Smile [:D]

Why is the model weight an issue? Are you trying to build a flying model?

If weight isn't an issue, then I think you could also use Vacuform Styrene to create your shapes. Otherwise I think the Balsa / Paper method already suggested would be a good way to go.

For a Jules Verne type flying ship; I think you could rig supports for a Vacuformed Airbag and still make it look like the bag was lifting the ship. I have never done anything like this myself, but some of the modelling magic I have seen on this board leasds me to believe it is entirely possible.

Not really an expert, but trying to be supportive.

My 2c

Yolev
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, February 20, 2005 5:02 AM
I''m no expert, but maybe you could try building the frame from balsa wood and covering it with the tissue type paper the R/C aircraft guys use? It should conform like an airship's skin would, and be lightweight was well. Should also stand up well to painting. Just an idea. Good luck with your endeavors.
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Airships
Posted by CorMak on Sunday, February 20, 2005 4:43 AM

I posted this topic in the Aircraft subject. Since my interest is in fictional and original concept airships, I was wondering if it might be good to bring here for discussion. Then, one of the replys suggested it might be better here, since you guys do a lot of scratchbuilding.

The original post and replies are here:
http://www.finescale.com/fsm/community/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=36725

I hope I did the link right. Anyhow, I was wondering where the Aiship models were in general, and then specifically on how to go about building original ones. There seems to only be a few subjects available for sale, so choices are limited there, and seem to only cover a few of the historical airships. I'm interested in fictional types (Space:1889, Jules Verne and H.G. Wells, Crimson Skies, Little Nemo, etc.) and even some of the modern concept LTA and HLA designs being experimented with. - Are there models of those hidden someplace?

Since I'm mostly looking at scratchbuilding, anyone have some ideas on how to get started with designing/creating framework and covering the main- gasbag - body? I had originally thought maybe using Aluminum foil, but have come across the idea of using wax paper (it seems to be indicated by the few kits I've seen online.) Either of those might be mored difficult to handle than styrene sheets, but would make for a much lighter model.

Anyhow, I would like to see what kind of responce this subject might generate. Someone awhile back had mention wanting airships like Space:1889 and Master of the World. We're talking about some fantastic looking airships - that might not be physically possible in the real world, but would look great hanging from the celing and would allow for imaginative details.

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