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Monsters in Motion 1/35 Martian War Machine question...

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  • Member since
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  • From: Tochigi, Japan
Monsters in Motion 1/35 Martian War Machine question...
Posted by J-Hulk on Saturday, August 13, 2005 4:05 AM
Just picked up the Monsters in Motion 1/35 Martian War Machine at a local hobby shop today. Looks like a very nice kit! The rotocast resin hull is beautifully seamless. The resin "gooseneck and cobra head" one-piece part is a little rough and warped, but nothing a little hot water and sanding wouldn't fix.
My question is about the vacuform lenses for the cobra head, wingtips, and hull front.
For anybody who has built this kit, how did you integrate the lenses into the main hull? There are no instructions with the kit (granted, with only 6 pieces, it's simple enough!), and just eyeballing it bit didn't really give me a good idea of what MiM is expecting us to do. Just cut the lenses and glue 'em flush on? Gonna be pretty tough cutting perfectly smooth curved lines to match the contours of the hull, methinks.

I built the old Lunar Models Martian War Machine about 15 years ago, and just faired the vacuform lenses into the two-piece vacuform hull with copious amounts of putty and hours of sanding, with moderately satisfactory results. I'm not sure that would work with the MiM kit.

Wouldn't it have been nice if the entire one-piece hollow hull had been cast in clear resin with all the lenses in place?
To me, the charm of this design is its seamlessness (is that a word?). I really don't want to bungle it with a clumsy attachment of the lenses.

So that's the question, for those who have built the kit: What did you do with the vacuform lenses?

Thanks!


Ah, one more observation: this kit is listed as 1/35 scale, as was the old Lunar Models kit...but as I recall (my LM MWM is in storage back in the States), the LM kit is much larger than this MiM kit.
Who's closer?
~Brian
  • Member since
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  • From: Tochigi, Japan
Posted by J-Hulk on Monday, August 22, 2005 2:33 PM
Hmmm...ten days and 63 hits later, and not a single reply? Disapprove [V]
Not even a "Sorry dude, can't help ya!" !?!?

Popular kit!

OK, I'll try to make the question a little more generic:

How would you attach the thin vacuformed plastic lenses to the resin hull?
The lack of positive mating surfaces has me worried.

Of course, If I didn't care about maintaining the translucency of the lenses, I would just glue some plastic stock inside the lenses and superglue away.
But I would like to light the kit, which means I need obstruction-free attachment points...

I did get some good info from a buddy in another forum about filling the plastic lenses with clay and recasting them in resin, but I still want to explore other avenues with the lenses as they are.

So, if anyone has any ideas, I'd love to hear 'em.

If not, I'll drop by again in another ten days/63hits! Wink [;)]
~Brian
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  • From: United Kingdom
Posted by cmtaylor on Sunday, August 28, 2005 5:06 PM
Why not make a clear resin copy of the entire cobra head with lens and embed the lightinng source (LED?) within the resin?
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  • Member since
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  • From: Tochigi, Japan
Posted by J-Hulk on Monday, August 29, 2005 6:49 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by cmtaylor

Why not make a clear resin copy of the entire cobra head with lens and embed the lightinng source (LED?) within the resin?


Great idea, but a little too ambitous for the likes of me!

I suppose the absolute best idea would be to attach all the lenses to everything, then recast the entire hull and cobra head/neck in clear resin, with lighting embedded...Very ambitious!
~Brian
  • Member since
    November 2005
Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, September 6, 2005 1:34 AM
I have built these in the past (not the MIM one) but the contruction style is the same. I have to say first that I detest...did I say detest..I DETEST vacuform parts in general. With that said, here was my solution.

Provided the forms are true (as in contoured properly) shave back side down to fit flush or as close to flush as possible around the edges with sandpaper so that you have a nice fit and not protruding around teh edges (in my procedure neatness don't count). Don't worry about screwing up the clear parts with the sand paper, you'll be painting over it anyway (unless you plan on lighting the kit, in which case, my method will not work for you).

Once they are trimmed nicely, superglue the edges of the casting and set the glass in place prperly aligned. Now you can continuse with you sanding to get them seamlessly blended in to the body (leave a slight line at the seam as a guide for masking later) and finish sand with 600 grit paper.

To paint: since the "lens" in the film are not "clear" (kind of like foggy lime jello) I used the paint method. After masking, the paint procedure is as follows:

First coat- Neon green
Second coat- Tamaya Trans Green, keep applying thin mist coats untill the green darkens to the shade you want (slightly darker at the point and edges to create depth)
Last coat(s) are clear coat to gloss ( keep all layers as thin as possible)

You're done, if the edges bother you (like my anal self) wet sand to feather flush with body using 400 to knock down the edge and 600 grit for final, smooth transition. My extra step was to polish carefully with Novus #2 and #3 to a high gloss.

Now you can mask and paint the body, you can chose to leave the slight paint edge as demarcation, or use these same methods to remove that line as well.

Noone said building kick-ass models was easy ;) Good Luck

  • Member since
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  • From: Tochigi, Japan
Posted by J-Hulk on Tuesday, September 6, 2005 9:28 AM
Thanks, XFactor!
That is precisely what I have decided to do. No lighting, just some fancy painting!

You are exactly right about the non-transparency of the "lenses" in the film. On my old Lunar Models build, I dulcoted the interiors of the lenses to impart the proper translucency.

Thanks for your reply!
~Brian
  • Member since
    November 2005
Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, September 8, 2005 1:45 AM
no problem ;)
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