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Battlestar Galactica - Episode 210 "Pegasus"
Posted by David Voss on Tuesday, September 27, 2005 3:29 PM
SCIFI.COM | Battlestar Galactica | Episode 210

So how many have seen this episode? What a way to leave us hanging until January! So many questions w/o answers!

Did you like it, hate it, or indifferent? Personally, I liked it. What few shots they showed of the Pegasus, it looked awesome! Someone commented that it looked very close to the ship in the original series. Either way, I still like the Galactica. Even with it's armor plating missing, there is something about the ship that I like. Now if only they'll make some models or even (dare I say it) diecast.

BTW, anyone who's interested in the series, if you haven't read Ron Moore's blog, there's some pretty good Q&A in there.
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Posted by se5022 on Tuesday, September 27, 2005 3:32 PM
My wife and I both watched it last night. We loved it, and we love the series. I too am eagerly awaiting a models that might be in the planning.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, September 27, 2005 8:10 PM
Yeah,a cool episode to a wayyyy to short season.
I myself like the Pegasus a little better than the Galactica.I dont know,I just cant get into the whole "ribbed" look to the Galactica.To me it looks like a giant salamander.
I would like model of it also though as a companion to my original series Galactica.
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Posted by kaleu on Tuesday, September 27, 2005 11:36 PM
I really liked it. I can't wait to see how the problem is resolved in the season opener. I do hope the writers keep the Pegasus around for a few episodes. There was some strong content in the show but they wrote it well. Can't wait to see more episodes and yes, any models.
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Posted by flaver on Wednesday, September 28, 2005 5:47 AM
all I can say is BSG ROCKS!
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, September 28, 2005 8:25 AM
It was a serious eyebrow-raiser. Parents definitely need to pay attention to whether or not the show is suitable for their kids. I was disappointed at how rapidly things went south between Adama and Cain. However, the show has shown that it has excellent script-writing, so I'll reserve judgement. Certainly, with Starbuck at large in an undetectable ship, many things are possible! Finally, Mr. Olmos continues to show us what good acting is all about.

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Posted by SNOOPY on Wednesday, September 28, 2005 11:30 AM
I liked it also. As far as models go...of course. We definately need some. I would also like some re-releases of the old series also. I am not patient enough to wait for the whole EBAY thing and then it going to high not to be able to get it. My complaint with the new series is that Baltar is a spineless wimp not like the original series not to mention the original Baltar was in command of the cylons after the imperious leader died. But the was the old series. I still like the new but there are some thing I just cannot get into, like cylons being pregnant? SCI-FI, you just have to love irony twists:):)
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Posted by skankr on Wednesday, September 28, 2005 2:56 PM
My guess is that a Cylon ship arrives, and they have to fight it off together, temporarily putting aside their problem. But chances are, I may be wrong. The writing on this show is one of the best on TV. Too bad more original shows can't have writers like this show does.
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Posted by nathaniel on Wednesday, September 28, 2005 3:20 PM
My prediction is that the admirial dies in the attack on the Cylons (or in a Cylon attack). She's not going to be a permanent fixture on the show-- that's the feeling I get.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, September 28, 2005 4:50 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by nathaniel

My prediction is that the admirial dies in the attack on the Cylons (or in a Cylon attack). She's not going to be a permanent fixture on the show-- that's the feeling I get.


Yeah,the Pegasus was'nt around long on the original series episode.
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Posted by MartianGundamModeler on Thursday, September 29, 2005 5:20 PM
THIS SHOW ROCKS! I was at the edge of my seat and shouting at the tv like a foot ball game when Adama said he was going to get his people back. i was like "LAUNCH THE VIPERS!". You should have seen the look on my lady friend's face. She had never seen me get emotional about something on TV!LOL
"Kick the Pegasus' butt ADAMA!"LOL

Still the rape seen was a bit edgy [certainly not for the kiddies!] there but hey the script writers on this show are great!
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Posted by sb36 on Friday, September 30, 2005 6:06 PM
Great Show,but where are the model kits?
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Posted by r13b20 on Sunday, October 9, 2005 5:21 PM
Granted it isn't the 1970's anymore, but, I still prefer the original series. The new one has been turned on it's head way too much for me. I'll still watch it, since it's sci-fi programming. It seems that in their quest to be different , Sci-Fi has deleted almost all the virtues extolled in the first show and made everyone a jerk. This won't be popular to say and is not meant to start anything. I would like to model some of the ships also.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, October 10, 2005 8:39 AM
If you like the old shows virtues you should ceck out the Mormon Church. The mythology of that faith was the base of the original show.
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Posted by thevinman on Monday, October 10, 2005 11:32 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by MartianGundamModeler

THIS SHOW ROCKS! I was at the edge of my seat and shouting at the tv like a foot ball game when Adama said he was going to get his people back. i was like "LAUNCH THE VIPERS!". You should have seen the look on my lady friend's face. She had never seen me get emotional about something on TV!


Same here! I was on the edge of my couch screaming! I can't freakin' wait till next season...it's almost painful.
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Posted by deattilio on Monday, October 10, 2005 7:16 PM
An outstanding show, will be buying the dvd set of season 2 as soon as it is out. Would be nice for someone to produce some models! Have seen the original Viper going for $60 on average, continuously. Need the whole range from the new series in plastic - Mk 2/7 Viper, Raider, I know you feel the pain too.

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, October 10, 2005 9:42 PM
I'm willing to buy the resin ones. And they are being made far more accurately than the old Monogram ones were.

Heck I created one of the resin one.

Yay resin.
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Posted by Fish-Head Aric on Tuesday, October 11, 2005 3:16 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by 13b20

Granted it isn't the 1970's anymore, but, I still prefer the original series. The new one has been turned on it's head way too much for me. I'll still watch it, since it's sci-fi programming. It seems that in their quest to be different , Sci-Fi has deleted almost all the virtues extolled in the first show and made everyone a jerk. This won't be popular to say and is not meant to start anything. I would like to model some of the ships also.

I'm with you on that, 13b20. Just not the same. And my wife, who was a diehard BG fan from the 70s, won't even watch the new series after the first episode. Me, I just can't settle into it. But the ships are cool.
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Posted by David Voss on Tuesday, October 11, 2005 10:36 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by skankr

My guess is that a Cylon ship arrives, and they have to fight it off together, temporarily putting aside their problem. But chances are, I may be wrong. The writing on this show is one of the best on TV. Too bad more original shows can't have writers like this show does.

That would seem like the likeliest scenario, although I'm hoping for something different as it seems too predictable or obvious. I was wondering if the XO, or whoever that guy was, or someone else was going to get a spine and stand up to her. Pull a gun on her and say she's gone too far.

Any thoughts on what that mystery Cylon ship is?
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Posted by DanCooper on Wednesday, October 12, 2005 2:16 AM
Must be a great show judging by all your posts.

IF ANY BOARDMEMEBER FROM ONE OF THE BELGIAN TV STATIONS READ THIS ; GO BUY THAT SHOW !!!

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Posted by djrost_2000 on Friday, October 14, 2005 12:49 AM
I feel priveledged to have grown up on the original BSG when I was a 5th grader, and now to have an even better show that I can enjoy as an adult. Thank you SciFi channelCool [8D]

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Posted by Griffworks on Friday, October 14, 2005 3:49 PM
Awesome show and fantastic episode!

QUOTE: Originally posted by 13b20

Granted it isn't the 1970's anymore, but, I still prefer the original series. The new one has been turned on it's head way too much for me. I'll still watch it, since it's sci-fi programming. It seems that in their quest to be different , Sci-Fi has deleted almost all the virtues extolled in the first show and made everyone a jerk.

They're shooting for a grittier, more realistic show. While I still have fond memories of TOS BSG, it doesn't hold my up so well in my thoughts, being more camp than anything. The best episodes, to me, are those where there's some dark machinations going on, where there's some conflict between characters other than the Black & White Cylons vs Colonials. I just got the boxed set in the mail yesterday and watched "Saga of a Star World" (the pilot) and think that one of the things that makes it such a good episode is seeing things like Adama's self-doubt, Apollo questioning just how smart it is to continue to allow the civilian government to run things w/the RTF on the run, Starbuck's rogue-ish manner is a lot stronger and Sire Uri should have been left on Carillon. People die - both on the Colonies and Carillon. It's not a pleasant universe.

Later episodes are all Tea & Crumpets, with almost every one ending with a happy, fuzzy feeling between everyone. The only other "dark" episodes are "The Living Legend" when Pegasus fails to show back up - but even then it ends on a happy note - and "War of The Gods" with Count Iblis. The point being, tho, that everybody almost always gets along, everybody's almost always reasonable and they all have that perfect 70's Hair going on. Wink [;)]

I think to say that "everyone is a jerk" on TNS BSG is a rather unfair. Quite a few of the characters are very likable: Adama as the gruff mlitary commander, Dualla is the upstanding communications NCO, Lt Gaeta is the uber-geeky and almost always affable bridge officer, Cally is usually very easy going and probably a load of fun to work with, Billy Keikaya is always looking at the positive, and others. Yes, Tigh is a drunk, Starbuck is an insubordinate brat (mostly to Tigh)and Apollo has a chip on his shoulder (that's slowly eroding, if you watch the show). Just because they're not all happy, smiling people every moment of the day and just because a few of them have the occasional bad day doesn't mean they're Jerks. You should work w/the folks I do and you'll be calling even the "jerkiest jerk" of TNS a saint. Well, maybe not, 'cause I reserve that label for Ellen Tigh (I use a different set of descriptive words for her). However, people aren't perfect and RDM is showing us those who aren't always at their best - warts and all.

The point is, a lot of the characters have got problems - just like a lot of us in real life. Ron D. Moore has created a show where he's trying to show that They Are us. Sometimes he beats us over the head with it, but most of the time it's fairly subtle, IMNSHO.
QUOTE: This won't be popular to say and is not meant to start anything.

It's all good, dude. I don't have a problem with it. You didn't just rail on the show, out of hand. Not everybody is going to like every show. I appreciate that you didn't bag on it.

QUOTE: I would like to model some of the ships also.

There are several good resin kits out there right now, with more on the way. Smile [:)]

Sadly, tho, we'll likely never see any good plastic kits.

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Posted by Griffworks on Friday, October 14, 2005 3:57 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by SNOOPY

I liked it also. As far as models go...of course. We definately need some. I would also like some re-releases of the old series also. I am not patient enough to wait for the whole EBAY thing and then it going to high not to be able to get it. My complaint with the new series is that Baltar is a spineless wimp not like the original series

Dude, TOS Baltar was a spineless wimp! The only thing holding him up was that big honkin' chair they gave him. That and the fact that he had three basestars at his command. He all but peed himself when he realized that it was Commander Cain coming after him in "The Living Legend, Part Two" and ordered the other two basestars to intercept him - sacrificing themselves to save him.

QUOTE: not to mention the original Baltar was in command of the cylons after the imperious leader died. But the was the old series.

Huh...? Which Imperious Leader? The one that died at the end of "Saga of a Star World"? Or the one that might have died in "The Hand of God"?

Regardless, Baltar was never in command of the Cylon Alliance. The most he ever commanded was three Basestars. Eventually, all he commanded was the kitchen on the Prison Barge....
QUOTE: I still like the new but there are some thing I just cannot get into, like cylons being pregnant? SCI-FI, you just have to love irony twists:):)

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, October 15, 2005 12:36 AM
I had watch that episode several time , and yes it is on the same design of the of the old TV series. But it had been worked on to smooth out some of the rough edges . To me this is what the old battlestar should have looked like.Approve [^]Approve [^]Approve [^]Approve [^]Approve [^]
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, October 15, 2005 8:30 AM
I enjoyed the original series the most .
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Posted by djrost_2000 on Tuesday, October 18, 2005 2:40 PM
I know I'm a real fan now. Today for the first time since I was a kid I used the word "Frac" as a swear word. My back is bad and as I was bending down to put something on the floor I exclaimed "Frac!".

Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, October 19, 2005 1:59 AM
In my oppinion, what the Pegasus episode was getting at is that, when the **** hit the fan, the Galactica ended up being as human as possible. Trying their best to keep the civilian fleet alive, to have a president that represented the people, all of that. The Pegasus, decided that the only possible way to survive was by extreme militarism.

The lead mechanic of the Pegasus was hiding something when he failed to talk about how he got picked up from a refugee ship, and put on the Pegasus. What happened, was the ship was found by the Pegasus, raided for supplies, and anyone who could be of value to them was taken, and the rest left to die - or worse. When the Pegasus admiral didn't send provisions to the Galactica civilian fleet, it was hinting at their mindset even more.

Don't try and defend the weak. Don't try and maintain some manner of civilian life. Don't even pretend your world is the same. Find a ship full of civilians with no military applicable knowledge? Do with them how you want, steal their provisions, and set them adrift. It is the best possible way to make your forces stronger, and you will have a higher capability of fighting the enemy.

Of course, it also turns you into a sadistic ammoral freak with no regards for human life.

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Posted by David Voss on Wednesday, October 19, 2005 10:13 AM
I watched the mini-series for the new BG series last night. I had never seen the first half of it so it was great watching it in it's entirety. All I can say is that I really love this show and can't wait for it to start back up in a couple months. Smile [:)]

I also watched the lowdown on BG which was a bonus feature on the DVD. It was great seeing some of the comparisons between the old and new series. Especially some of the clips from the old. While they do share some things, I can't help but to view these as being two different shows. They're both great in their own right, I don't think it's fair to compare them to each other -- it's apples to oranges.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, October 26, 2005 10:54 AM
I was privledged to see the original BSG when I was a teen, but now I look upon it differently. The original show was essentially "campiness and corniness", while the new BSG can be defined as "mysterious darkness and sexiness". Would love to see some kits.
P.S. My first thought on the resolution was that The Pres. will promote Adama to supreme commander or something like that.
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Posted by MartianGundamModeler on Tuesday, November 1, 2005 12:29 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by thevinman

QUOTE: Originally posted by MartianGundamModeler

THIS SHOW ROCKS! I was at the edge of my seat and shouting at the tv like a foot ball game when Adama said he was going to get his people back. i was like "LAUNCH THE VIPERS!". You should have seen the look on my lady friend's face. She had never seen me get emotional about something on TV!


Same here! I was on the edge of my couch screaming! I can't freakin' wait till next season...it's almost painful.


YES!!! The anticipation is Killing me!!LOL The only thing that has bugged be about the show as far as nitpicks are concerned is how did the skin of the Galctica take a dirct hit with a Nuke yet Boomer blew the skin open with hand held explosive devices which contained "c-5"? I'm not going to even get into Starbuck piloting a raider with the "brain" ripped out Still I love this show!! I also agree with what some one said earlier that you comparing this show with the old one is comapring apples and oranges. they both are good shows in their own righ t and in there own time. A show like the current BSG in the 70's would given images of facists or communists or even space Nazis or somthing. Not to mention they would probably have had religious groups protesting...
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