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Bandai's Enterprise NCC 1701

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  • From: Joisey
Posted by John P on Sunday, May 11, 2003 11:08 AM
Got it, built in in 2 evenings, stuck it on a shelf and got back to my regular modeling. It's a great little distraction and finishes of as a truly beautiful display piece. The lighting system is ingenious, the part-to-part engineering on the whole kit nothing short of brilliant, and the prepaint awesome. Accuracy is light years better than any other Enterprise kit out there.

I had a little difficulty getting the saucer rim pieces seated all the way. More pressure, I guess. The nacelles pylons fit a bit too snugly into the 2ndary hull, so a bit of sanding may be needed. The nacelles don't snap together well along their bottoms, so some glue may ne needed there. Otherwise, no problems.

The light bulbs are encased in specially shaped clear housing to fit into the light transmission parts. I doubt there's any point in replacing them with LEDs - You'd need 1/4" dia x 3/4" LEDs to fit, and the damn thing is bright enough to read by anyway! The kit really needs nothing to be changed or substituted, it's pretty much perfect. All the parts have overlapping grooved edges, so if you put it togtether right there will be NO light leaks.

No reason in the world the purists out there couldn't use the kit to build anyway they want - strip it, paint it your way, get JTGraphics to make you some decals. I may even do that myself with a second kit.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, May 9, 2003 11:37 PM
Actually,

The Original Movie Enterprise 1701, was painted in varying shades of blue and green After the ship was "destroyed" In Star trek III the studio model was re-dressed to sport varying colors of gray panelling. If you look around at some sites you can see the studio model, i had a picture but i dont remember which site it was on and the colors were indeed green.

QUOTE: Originally posted by stowe@inebraska.com

I too am excited about this release but in looking at the recently released photos of the production kit the colors are wrong! The Bandi kit uses many shades of BLUE instead of Gray! The top of the engineering hull/Dorsal connection and the sensor array ore the largest exceptions (they should be dark Grey) and also the pylon vents should be either dark grey or black, on the kit they are again BLUE!
Although I will still get this impressive looking kit I think My airbrush will be getting a workout before the ENTERPRISE goes on display in my Office!
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 7, 2003 3:01 PM
For those of you who are interested, there are some excellent comments and reviews of the model by those who received and already completed them. Average time to complete the model out of the box is about 4 hours. Take a look at:

http://www.starshipmodeler.com for reviews

and there is a star trek discussion board with a discussion under the title "Got my Bandai Enterprise today !!!!"
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  • From: Tochigi, Japan
Posted by J-Hulk on Wednesday, May 7, 2003 1:49 AM
Just went down to pick one up, and they were already SOLD OUT!!!
Sellin' like hotcakes here in Osaka!
~Brian
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 6, 2003 11:38 AM
Thanks J-Hulk, that's exactly the info I needed.
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  • From: Tochigi, Japan
Posted by J-Hulk on Tuesday, May 6, 2003 5:25 AM
Zaphod,
from what I see in Hobby Japan, there are a few bulbs centrally placed (3 or 4), and the light is distrubuted via clear plastic plates and blocks. I'm sure there's a name for that stuff, but it escapes me at the moment. NOT "light sheet," if I understand what that is.
From the pictures, it appears that all areas that are lit on the "real" Enterprise get the same treatment here, so I'd reckon you woudn't need to add or exchange anything to get an "authentic" effect.

This kits looks to me like a high quality model that one person can build in 20 minutes and be quite satisfied with, while another person can spend 2 months on, creating his or her interpretation of the "perfect Enterprise. "

I'll tell ya'll more about it when I get it on the desk!

~Brian
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, May 5, 2003 6:08 PM
Can you tell me anything about the lighting?
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, May 4, 2003 9:48 PM
While I am fascinated by a model that can be completed in what looks like under 20 minutes, I would still prefer a quality model that let me do most of the work. Sometimes I don't like to represent Sci Fi models as they appear in movies.

I know there are purists, and sometimes it is fun to recreate the exact replica, but on the other hand being from a militray background look at these ships and wonder why in the hell they painted them without camoflauge. I mean they stick out like a sore thumb! But I digress.

I don't find the AMT kits particulary well crafted, but it does challenge ones skill!
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, May 3, 2003 11:43 AM
Now that the kit is shipping, I have a few questions for the good of the order:
1. Has anyone received it?
2. Are light bulbs supplied, and if so, what kind?
3. How is the light distributed?
4. Are the light bulbs in series, or in parallel?
5. What kind of LEDs might be used in place of the bulbs?
6. If anyone plans on using LEDs, how much resistance are you planning on putting in series with them?

I know your time is valuable, but if anyone has the time and inclination to post answers to this board, it would help me take that next step to lighting my models.
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  • From: PDX, OR
Posted by Umi_Ryuzuki on Tuesday, April 29, 2003 10:32 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by zaphod

You guys know the kit is now available and is now shipping, right?



Yeah shipping, what he said...Big Smile [:D]

click on the link, the link....
http://www.hlj.com/cgi-perl/hljpage.cgi?BAN916192

The same link Ignatz posted at the beginning of the thread.Smile [:)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 29, 2003 9:32 PM
You guys know the kit is now available and is now shipping, right?
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  • From: East Bethel, MN
Posted by midnightprowler on Monday, April 28, 2003 4:27 AM
J-Hulk, can you post the link for that? Thanks.
Lee

Hi, I am Lee, I am a plastiholic.

Co. A, 682 Engineers, Ltchfield, MN, 1980-1986

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  • From: Tochigi, Japan
Posted by J-Hulk on Monday, April 28, 2003 12:51 AM
Check out June's Hobby Japan for an in-depth look and lots of photos of their new Enterpise kit.

Haven't seen any on the shelves here as of yet, but I'm looking...
~Brian
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, March 8, 2003 10:19 PM
I too am excited about this release but in looking at the recently released photos of the production kit the colors are wrong! The Bandi kit uses many shades of BLUE instead of Gray! The top of the engineering hull/Dorsal connection and the sensor array ore the largest exceptions (they should be dark Grey) and also the pylon vents should be either dark grey or black, on the kit they are again BLUE!
Although I will still get this impressive looking kit I think My airbrush will be getting a workout before the ENTERPRISE goes on display in my Office!
  • Member since
    February 2003
  • From: Tochigi, Japan
Posted by J-Hulk on Tuesday, February 25, 2003 1:51 AM
Hi, folks.
I've seen quite a bit of info on this kit here (Japan) in the hobby shops and in the hobby mags, and it does indeed appear to be the real deal. As far as I can tell, it is pre-painted (not molded in colors) with the aztec pattern and all markings. It is also a snap-together kit, and they tout their use of "under gates" as not requiring any touch up, since the finish will not be marred when removing from the sprues. And of course the whole thing lights up beautifully. Retail price here is set at 6,500 yen, and it should be out in mid-March (post-poned from January).
Oh yeah, I'ma gonna get one, yessiree!

Brian
~Brian
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  • From: Seattle
Posted by Papa-Echo-64 on Friday, February 14, 2003 2:23 PM
What about a slightly larger but more accurate TOS Shuttle? Now that would be cool!Big Smile [:D]
Straighten up and fly right.....
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  • From: East Bethel, MN
Posted by midnightprowler on Friday, February 14, 2003 4:28 AM
Hope they do a TOS Enterprise.

Hi, I am Lee, I am a plastiholic.

Co. A, 682 Engineers, Ltchfield, MN, 1980-1986

1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 1 Corinthians 15:51-54

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  • From: Seattle
Posted by Papa-Echo-64 on Friday, February 14, 2003 12:49 AM
I have to admit ....the price is not bad at all! for what you get!

I'm not Fluke...really!.....He is my Brother who could not embrace the traditional model methods of our elders......If he ever claims that he can remove your decal pains.....don't let em touch your models!Tongue [:P]
Straighten up and fly right.....
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, February 9, 2003 10:27 AM
Just put in my pre-order as well! Gonna be a great yaer for Trek models.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, February 8, 2003 2:35 AM
Yep, that's another $100 out of my wallet as well. Big Smile [:D]
Sean
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  • From: Joisey
Posted by John P on Friday, February 7, 2003 5:14 PM
quote:
Originally posted by rossjr

Looks like you can pre-order them for an April delivery at around $55 at Hobby Link Japan. Here is the link:



Thanks, John, there goes another hundred bucks! Black Eye [B)]
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  • From: Minneapolis, MN
Posted by rossjr on Friday, February 7, 2003 9:32 AM
Looks like you can pre-order them for an April delivery at around $55 at Hobby Link Japan. Here is the link:

http://www.hlj.com/cgi-perl/hljpage.cgi?BAN916192
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, February 6, 2003 10:05 PM
I hope the Bandai kit will be everything it's being promoted to be!

Accurate would be GOOD! Big Smile [:D]

However.... here in Canada, I fully expect this model to top $100Cdn. That's quite a bit of coin for a smaller model. But I guess I will have to wait and see once it arrives.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, February 6, 2003 2:19 PM
Yo John! That's the lowest price I've heard yet! Those guys are good.

The Enterprise that Bandai is putting out, from what I've heard is a prepaint, with parts molded in black plastic to facilitate the internal lighting. Check out this link:
http://www.hlj.com/ths/ent/index.html
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  • From: Joisey
Posted by John P on Thursday, February 6, 2003 7:09 AM
Hi Iggy, Hi S.
I believe Mega Hobby said the kit will sell for $57?
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, February 5, 2003 9:49 PM
Bandai kits are not pre-painted, but come molded in the appropriate colours, often with multiple colours on a sprue.

check out http://www.starshipmodeler.com/mecha/tp_death.htm
please forgive the bad grammar and spelling. I don't know why I did such a horrible job on that review.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, February 5, 2003 6:36 PM
AMT/Ertl and Revell-Monogram did not renew their option on the Star Trek licensing quite a while back. Polar Lights now has the domestic licensing and will premiere new, more accurate models starting this year. No mention of a TMP or 1701-A Enterprise yet.

What the Bandai one lacks in overall size will be more than made up for in accuracy. There's been reams of information documenting the innaccuracies in the AMT one and how to fix them. The innaccuracies have spawned a small industry of aftermarket producers specializing in resin accurizing bits to try and whip that model into shape! The nacelle pylons are a case in point. As AMT engineered the kit, they are nearly half the thickness that they should be! There's no excuse for the lack of attention to detail and accuracy. Although a little expensive, it the Bandai one is prepainted and will include a lighting kit. Heck ,after buying an old AMT kit, all the resin accurizing bits, painting templates for the aztec paneling, and accurate decals, you'd wind up easily spending double the price of hte Bandai kit.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, February 5, 2003 4:51 PM
The Bandai kit will be smaller than the old AMT/Ertl offering, but larger than the upcoming release of the 1/1000 TOS Enterprise from Polar Lights. It will be about 14.5 inches long, and is 1/850th scale.

It should be available for about $50-$60, more or less.

The link ignatz provided above shows prototype photos, but apparently the release has been pushed back a month or two for tweaking. Just let them get it right! Big Smile [:D]

Qapla'

SSB
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, February 5, 2003 1:59 PM
bandai is a Japanese company. You'll find most of their stuff online. You can find their anime kits in most china towns (and Toys r Us, Zellers, Walmart)

They make a lot of Anime kits, high quality, nice hard plastic, injection-molded, nice detail. Usually lots of gimmicks in their kits, like posability. Crap decals (usually silve foil stickers)

www.bandai-asia.com

A good hobby shop that stocks sci-fi kits wouldn't go wrong with a Bandai enterprise kit. Personally I dislike the ships from Star Trek, but if I think of all the bad experiences I've heard about from from trek modelers, a kit from a different manufacturer would be looked at with interest, and once word of mouth got around, it'd fly off the shelves.

In fact, go in to your local hobby shop and ask for one. Tell your friends about it, have them ask for one, the hobby shop will get the message.
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