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  • Member since
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  • From: San Bernardino, CA
Royal Louis rigging question
Posted by enemeink on Monday, August 25, 2008 12:06 PM
I've been having trouble finding rigging diagrams for the Royal Louis and was hopping that some of you could point me in the right direction. I am currently working on the 1/200th Heller. but i was hoping to get my hands on a wooden model ships drawings of the riggings. my google searches haven't turned up much. thanks for the help.
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Posted by ggatz on Monday, August 25, 2008 3:03 PM

The only wooden model I am aware of is the Mamoli kit .

You might email ModelExpo and see if they sell the plans seperately..

The model may be out of production though ..

 Your best bet might be to inquire over at  DryDock Models

whether someone might have some plans they would share..

 Member ggarwood was building a scratch model, but I don't know the source of his

plans..  His gallery pictures stop short of any rigging..

 http://gallery.drydockmodels.com/royallouis

 

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  • Member since
    February 2008
  • From: San Bernardino, CA
Posted by enemeink on Monday, August 25, 2008 3:34 PM
yeah i've tried to email model-expo. i'm just waiting on a reply. I looked at the drydock models page but didin't think to ask them becuase I don't frequent that forum. thanks for the help though. i do appreciate it.
"The race for quality has no finish line, so technically it's more like a death march."
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  • From: Greenville, NC
Posted by jtilley on Monday, August 25, 2008 5:19 PM

I haven't seen that Heller kit for a long time, but as I recall it represents a three-decked French ship-of-the-line from about the time of the American Revolution (or a little earlier).  There are quite a few good books about rigging of that period - but most of them (at least the ones in English) deal with British practice.  Off the top of my head I can think of two that would be directly relevant to this particular project:

1.  Jean Boudriot, The 74-Gun Ship.  (Original French title:  Le vaisseau de 74 canons.)  This is a four-volume masterpiece, covering every conceivable detail of a two-decked ship-of-the-line of the period.  (The rigging of two- and three- deckers was virtually identical.)  Vol. 3 is the one that covers the spars, sails, and rigging.

2.  Karl Heinz Marquart, Eighteenth-Century Rigs and Rigging.  Of all the rigging books, this is the only one I know that attempts to be truly international in its coverage. 

Unfortunately both of these books are quite expensive - and rather hard to find in the U.S.  But if you're within driving distance of a good library it may have them - or be able to get them through the Inter-Library Loan service.

If you aren't planning on doing a really detailed job of rigging (this is, after all, a pretty small scale), you may find a more basic, generic source about rigging perfectly adequate.  The best place to start, in my opinion, is George Campbell's old classic The Neophypte Shipmodeler's Jackstay, which is available as a very reasonably-priced paperback from Model Expo.  (Even cheaper used copies can be found on the web.) 

Hope that helps a little.  Good luck.

Youth, talent, hard work, and enthusiasm are no match for old age and treachery.

  • Member since
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  • From: San Bernardino, CA
Posted by enemeink on Tuesday, August 26, 2008 11:14 AM

thanks for the books jtilley.

i got an answer back from model-expo. there are 6 rigging plans for this ship at $5 a piece. i just have to call and talk to the parts department. thanks for the help. i'll be starting a build thread on this pretty soon.

"The race for quality has no finish line, so technically it's more like a death march."
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    May 2003
  • From: Greenville, NC
Posted by jtilley on Tuesday, August 26, 2008 11:20 AM

I have no idea what the plans Model Expo sells are.  I rather suspect they're published by one of the European kit manufacturers.  That in itself doesn't establish much; in terms of accuracy the standards of those companies generally are extremely low (especially when it comes to rigging), but there are plenty of exceptions.  The price is certainly reasonable.

Good luck.

Youth, talent, hard work, and enthusiasm are no match for old age and treachery.

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    December 2012
Posted by joertz on Wednesday, December 5, 2012 12:45 PM

EMEMEINK DID YOU EVER GET THE RIGGING FOR THE ROYAL LOUIS IF SO CAN YOU TELL ME WERE TO GET OF CAN YOU SEND ME A COPY THANKS JOERTZ

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Posted by santa on Thursday, December 6, 2012 7:16 PM

Did you get this years Christmas card old frend  ?

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