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decal help
Posted by airtrans Crash on Wednesday, October 15, 2008 8:21 PM
Can anyone make decals? I need hull numbers and the name for the USS Emmons made up in 1/350 and have no clue where to start.
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Posted by Tracy White on Wednesday, October 15, 2008 11:58 PM

You might not need to do the name; while they were welded on the stern the letters weren't usually painted anything but the same color of the hull they were on.

I am blanking on who has done hull number decals; Gold Medal Models has a set but they are for more modern ships with the shadow painted on the number. Perhaps Starfighter would be interested in doing a set of generic numbers for you

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Posted by EdGrune on Thursday, October 16, 2008 8:21 AM
 Tracy White wrote:

You might not need to do the name; while they were welded on the stern the letters weren't usually painted anything but the same color of the hull they were on.

I am blanking on who has done hull number decals; Gold Medal Models has a set but they are for more modern ships with the shadow painted on the number. Perhaps Starfighter would be interested in doing a set of generic numbers for you

Iron Shipwright offers a set of 1:350 scale USN WWII hull number decals

http://ironshipwrights.com/accessories.html

Darren Scannel of Hawk Graphics/Resin Shipyard prints the decals for ISW.  Darren also sells a set of 1:350 scale USN signal flags in small, medium, and large sizes

 

 

http://www.hawk-graphics.com/

Darren's hull numbers are shaded - appropriate for post-war ships.

Per notes on the Emmon's NAVSOURCE page her call sign, flown in signal flags from the halyards, was NUBQ

 

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Posted by airtrans Crash on Thursday, October 16, 2008 5:08 PM

hey Ed,

 thanks for the info, you mentioned callsigns flown from signal flags, how does that work? (I'm an Air Force guy so the squid stuff is very  new to me.)

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Posted by subfixer on Thursday, October 16, 2008 5:35 PM

Recognition/callsign letters are usually carried vertically in descending order from the port (left) yardarm (crosspiece on the mast). Here is a picture of a modern Arleigh Burke destroyer (USS Winston Churchill;) with several signal flags hoisted. The callsign flags are the ones with the blue and white checkerboard ("Nan" in the old system and "November" in the present system) at the top.

Note the bone in her teeth, cool!

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Posted by mfsob on Thursday, October 16, 2008 8:25 PM

I have always toyed with the idea of adding a "creative" flag hoist or two to a model to see just how many people would get the, ahem, joke. I know, I have a sick mind.

But I would like to figure out a way to give signal flags that wrinkled look in 1/700, it's all I can do to fold those little guys around the stretched sprue rigging I use. 

 

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Posted by airtrans Crash on Saturday, November 22, 2008 7:36 PM

I need to ask if they ship to APO.

 

Hawk Graphics breaks them down by ship class and size as well as model size, but truth be told I am interested in the Iron Shipwrights one you linked. Is there a differences in sizes for flags and numbers that I should be aware of? 

 

sorry, I am USAF, dont know and a tread head so the Navy is still new.

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Posted by EdGrune on Sunday, November 23, 2008 7:22 AM
 airtrans Crash wrote:

I need to ask if they ship to APO.

Hawk Graphics breaks them down by ship class and size as well as model size, but truth be told I am interested in the Iron Shipwrights one you linked. Is there a differences in sizes for flags and numbers that I should be aware of? 

sorry, I am USAF, dont know and a tread head so the Navy is still new.

Contact Jon Warneke direct at Iron Shipwright at ironship@vic.com.   Tell him that Ed Grune sent you (that may not really help ;->) and what you want to order.   Jon will ship it to your APO.

The ISW sheet has 24" bow numbers and 15" stern numbers in black & white.   The numbers are appropriate for DD sized ships during the war.  Use white on a dark-painted ship - like Ms21 Navy Blue.   Black would be used on a lighter-ship or on a light patch of a dazzle measure.

I'll dig out a placement diagram later today & post a followup message.

The ISW Signal Flags may be a bit large for a WWII DD application.   They are actually a modern set - with the various division & squadron shields.  

I'll tell you what -- when you contact Jon,  ask him if he has any of the Hawk Graphics small signal flags on hand which he could send at the same time.  Jon & Darren Scannell of Hawk are good friends & often work together.  If he doesn't have a set on hand he may be able to get a set & package  everything together.

No apologies about being Air Force necessary.

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