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Akagi Has Docked Today!!!

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Posted by searat12 on Wednesday, November 26, 2008 4:38 PM
Yup, that's 'Shokaku'.......
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, November 26, 2008 3:38 PM
 Tracy White wrote:

A Test Shot was displayed at the 2008 All Japan Model & Hobby Show.

Also, SeaRat, there are *five* separate PE sets, only one of them has to deal with the girders under the flight deck; the others deal with other detail.

Wow...I WILL buy this one:

Fujimi 1/350 IJN Aircraft Carrier Shokaku

Fujimi 1/350 IJN Aircraft Carrier Shokaku

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Posted by searat12 on Wednesday, November 26, 2008 2:15 PM
No doubt!  'Akagi' is a very cool looking ship indeed, and I had to think long and hard before deciding to let this one go by (at least for now!), and I may revisit that decision in a year or so.  'Shokaku' and her near-identical sistership 'Zuikaku' were at least as important, if not more so than 'Akagi,' if for no other reason than both missed Midway but were involved in almost every other naval encounter involving carriers during the war (and I am hoping it will be a fair bit cheaper than 'Akagi' as well, though that may just be wishful thinking!).
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Posted by Tojo72 on Wednesday, November 26, 2008 12:54 PM
Shokaku is a fairly unique subject,with that small foward island it  is a good subject and a mean looking ship ,but with room and money constraints,if I am going to build just one 1/350 IJN carrier it had to be Akagi or Kaga,they are just so diffrent in their looks,that they really stand out against my american carriers that's why I built Hornet with the B-24's and Lexington with the enclosed bow and huge island instead of going for one of the Essex's,so thats why I choose Akagi instead of waiting for Shokaku.

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Posted by Tracy White on Wednesday, November 26, 2008 10:50 AM

A Test Shot was displayed at the 2008 All Japan Model & Hobby Show.

Also, SeaRat, there are *five* separate PE sets, only one of them has to deal with the girders under the flight deck; the others deal with other detail.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, November 26, 2008 8:01 AM

 searat12 wrote:
I had a look at the PE set for the Akagi, and it basically appears to replace most of the structure beneath the flight decks fore and aft, along with all the supporting girders, etc, etc, etc.  A whole lotta brass!  I am sure there will be PE fanatics that will just go nuts over this, but for me, it is just over the top (never thought I'd ever complain about a model being TOO detailed, but there it is!).  All that said, for those with the time, money and persistence, the Hasegawa Akagi will build into a magnificent model, and I wish them all the best of luck (but I will wait for Shokaku, or one of the other kits to come out more within my means and skills).  It would be interesting to put this kit alongside the Trumpeter USS Saratoga for comparison (and you can get a Saratoga for about half the price of just the PE set for Akagi!)......

I agree...I think this is one kit that is just for serious Akago or Japanese carrier fanatics, who don't mind building one kit a year...as I stated before, you will see very few of these actually built, and even fewer w/ all of the PE, etc...Is having this kit available a bad thing? No, of course not, but I'm just stating my opinion. 

I did fall for their 700th scale early Akagi and bought it and every accessory they offered for about $100...I feel that the chances of me actually finishing that model are very good...I'm surprised that there hasn't been more buzz about this kit as I find the early configuration very interesting and colorful (air group and deck markings)...

News of this Shokakuhi (SP?) release intrigues me, as it was involved in many battles...is this just undustry buzz? Are there test shots or diagrams?  What's the real scoop and time frame???

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Posted by searat12 on Wednesday, November 26, 2008 7:51 AM
I had a look at the PE set for the Akagi, and it basically appears to replace most of the structure beneath the flight decks fore and aft, along with all the supporting girders, etc, etc, etc.  A whole lotta brass!  I am sure there will be PE fanatics that will just go nuts over this, but for me, it is just over the top (never thought I'd ever complain about a model being TOO detailed, but there it is!).  All that said, for those with the time, money and persistence, the Hasegawa Akagi will build into a magnificent model, and I wish them all the best of luck (but I will wait for Shokaku, or one of the other kits to come out more within my means and skills).  It would be interesting to put this kit alongside the Trumpeter USS Saratoga for comparison (and you can get a Saratoga for about half the price of just the PE set for Akagi!)...... Also, I note that Akagi (and other models too) sell for considerably less as 'pre-orders,' (like $100 less!), so perhaps that will be the wave of the future.  That said, I got burned by the Hasegawa 'Nagato' on a pre-order (those blasted CAD lines!), and really am leery of pre-ordering anything else because of this.  Does anyone else feel the same way?
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Posted by Chuck Fan on Tuesday, November 25, 2008 7:47 PM

Hmm, I see Akagi listed for $385 in the US without the accessories.    I don't think I will be getting it. 

Fujimi has announced a $20 1/350 Japanese naval aircraft set for December.   If that is for the Sukaku, then perhaps the ship won't be far behind.

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Posted by Tracy White on Tuesday, November 25, 2008 6:47 PM

 jtilley wrote:
This one will be interesting to watch.  Will Hasegawa (or its competitors) give us a big range of $600.00 carriers? Will Hasegawa go belly up?  Will Revell Europe release a 1/350 Akagi for half the price?

Fujimi has a 350th SHokaku on the ways... no hint on price.

Hasegawa will not go belly up over Akagi; it was designed for the Japanese domestic market, where it is doing quite nicely for them. ANything they sell outside of Japan is gravy.

It's doubtful  that RoG will even think of doing an Akagi, with all of the other projects possible that could be so much more profitable..

For What it's worth, Gold Medal Models will not be doing Photo-etch for Akagi; he sees no need, what with the PE Hasegawa already provides. I'm inclined to agree. While I haven't finished my review of the PE yet, the only large gripe I have about it is that the inclined ladders still use the solid plastic pieces and merely add hand rails. I'd love to see a generic IJN inclined ladder set, if there is indeed enough difference in scale to warrant it vice using a RN/USN set.

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Posted by Tojo72 on Tuesday, November 25, 2008 3:44 PM

 searat12 wrote:
I've had a few looks at this model on the various websites, and wehn you add in all the PE stuff, really looks like it will be a bear to build!  My guess is to do it justice will take about twice as long as a comparable battleship in the same scale...... And THAT should keep you busy for a while!!!

 

Yea,Strictly out-of-box for me.maybe a set of extra planes,that's about all I can deal with,this one is quite a handful on it's own.

The thing is I plan to retire in a few years and to change states,I would hate to build it,and then wreck it trying to move it across the country.So I may just hold on to it for the time being,make it my first post-retirement project.

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Posted by jtilley on Tuesday, November 25, 2008 3:40 PM

It's an Eternal Truth in the hobby business that only a small percentage of kits that get bought ever get finished.  But it looks to me like Hasegawa and the other big-name Japanese companies are pushing the plastic warship kit into a new realm. 

That new 1/350 Akagi, with all Hasegawa's accessory sets (to say nothing of the additional ones the aftermarket companies presumably will be offering shortly), will cost over $600.00.  That puts it completely out of my own personal ballpark.  (I might be able to justify an expenditure like that for a project that would occupy me for several years, but not for one that I'd finish in, I imagine, a couple of months.)  This just isn't the sort of thing I can think about buying, ogling over for several hours, and then sticking in the stash of kits I tell myself I'm going to build someday.

It's not for me to pass judgment on whether a kit is overpriced or not.  But I do wonder whether - especially in the current tough economic climate - Hasegawa may just have gone over the line here.  I suspect quite a few modelers feel the same way I do about such matters:  it's one thing to spend $10.00 on a casual purchase of a kit that one might or might not get around to eventually, but quite another to spend $600.00 on anything.  If the only people who buy this kit are the ones who genuinely intend to take it home and start building it, the manufacturer is likely to suffer.

This one will be interesting to watch.  Will Hasegawa (or its competitors) give us a big range of $600.00 carriers? Will Hasegawa go belly up?  Will Revell Europe release a 1/350 Akagi for half the price? 

This is, as I've noted more than once, an interesting time to be a ship modeler.

Youth, talent, hard work, and enthusiasm are no match for old age and treachery.

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Posted by searat12 on Tuesday, November 25, 2008 3:34 PM
That's my guess too.... If I suddenly find myself with a lot of money floating around (unlikely!), I might buy one and put in the back of the closet for a few years, but actually, I am keener on the upcoming Shokaku, and perhaps some other Japanese flat-tops will emerge (my favorites are 'Hiryu' and some of the smaller ones, like Ryujo,' and 'Junyo')....
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 25, 2008 3:11 PM
 caramonraistlin wrote:

Tracy:

 

I have a question for you. I noticed the very large deck sized hinomaru on the decal sheet. Did the Akagi have this at the time of Pearl Harbor or at a later date? I glanced through the instructions but didn't see any reference to its placement.

 

Thank you

 

Michael Lacey

I believe that is a Midway feature. 

I bought the "early" kit of the Akagi in 1/700th and that kit alone (with the wooden flightdeck, etc.) will be a challenge initself...the 350th Akagi looks like a real feat of engineering but I'm not sure I want to invest the time and money into that large a project...and if I had it I know I couldn't do it justice w/o all of the PE upgrades--especially for the girders, etc...

Nonetheless, hats off to those who can/will actually finish this beast! Although, IMO, I doubt many who buy it will actually see it finished to the end...

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Posted by caramonraistlin on Tuesday, November 25, 2008 1:31 PM

Tracy:

 

I have a question for you. I noticed the very large deck sized hinomaru on the decal sheet. Did the Akagi have this at the time of Pearl Harbor or at a later date? I glanced through the instructions but didn't see any reference to its placement.

 

Thank you

 

Michael Lacey

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Posted by Tracy White on Tuesday, November 25, 2008 1:08 PM
I posted a review with lots of photos and information over on ModeWarships.

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Posted by caramonraistlin on Tuesday, November 25, 2008 12:47 PM

Serat12:

You are absolutely right. Those were my thoughts exactly about how long it would take to build this model. UPS just brought mine about half an hour ago. When I opened it I was simply amazed at the number of parts in this thing. I did not plan to buy any of the detail kits for it except maybe a set of rails, but I can easily see that one could get lost in super detailing this thing and never finish it. Just straight out of the box will probably take me about 6 to 9 months of part time effort working on it to finish. I will say that I am overwhelmed with this kit and am not wondering what I spent my money on as I can easily see all the sprues of parts in this thing. I know it is expensive but I would recommend anyone still considering buying one to just go ahead and get it. A nice touch is the poster sized picture of the artwork on the box and also the poster sized painting/rigging guide that is included. I for one consider it worth the wait. Now I have no excuse but to finish up the 1/350 Richelieu I've been working on (1940 backdate) and proceed with this one. All in all Hasegawa did a fine job.

Sincerely

 

Michael Lacey 

   

 

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Posted by searat12 on Tuesday, November 25, 2008 10:21 AM
I've had a few looks at this model on the various websites, and wehn you add in all the PE stuff, really looks like it will be a bear to build!  My guess is to do it justice will take about twice as long as a comparable battleship in the same scale...... And THAT should keep you busy for a while!!!
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Posted by Tojo72 on Monday, November 24, 2008 6:30 PM

Sorry guy,I would love to take the camera out and send you some shots,but the workbench is jammed and i got no time at the moment,but check out the forum at www.modelshipwrights.com they have have some nice previews and sprue shots.If no one else gets them up I will try tomorrow.

 

 

 ps1scw wrote:
Can't wait to see pics

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Posted by ps1scw on Monday, November 24, 2008 6:08 PM
Can't wait to see pics
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Akagi Has Docked Today!!!
Posted by Tojo72 on Monday, November 24, 2008 5:43 PM
Got home tonite and found a huge Hasegawa box on my front porch,courtesey of Freetime Hobbies.It looks great in the box,very impressive,It might be awhile before i can start,but i can't wait.

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