What next from Italeri????

I vote for a German E boat, or a Higgans PT boat

snapdragonxxx wrote:

OK! We've had their ELCO PT Boat, a couple of smaller releases and now their Schnellboot in 1/35. What should Italeri release in 1/35 ship range next? I'd love to see a VIIc or VIIC/41 U-Boat in that scale with internal details (or both boats even). It would be huge with lots of parts and a big price tag - but something worth building and displaying if you've got the room and Italeri do their research and design right! What would you folks like to see??? James

I vote for the SEALs boats (any of them) MK V boat or the SOC Riverine boat, or the RHIB.

The USCG Boston Whaler looking harbor protector boat too.  

To continue this series of 1/35 scale MTB's there would seem to be two logical and one rather exotic choices for Italeri:

Logical: Vosper MTB or the Italian MAS 500.

Exotic: I would love one of these little Soviet terrors, not too big but bristling with big mg's and with that utilitarian look of all things Russian that just screams out for weathering:

Julian

 

Squadron used to sell a 1/35 scale U-Boat from an Italian company, and may still have it available, but as it was selling for something like $1100, I gave it a miss!  There also used to be a model company based in California named '38th parallel' that offered a 1/38 scale Type XXIII, a Type VIIC and a Gato as RC models, but again, wanted big bucks for them, and I can't imagine a 1/35 scale U-Boat in styrene being much cheaper than about $500 or more (and at about 7' long, where would you put it?).  As 1/35 is a quite large scale, it knda limits the subject matter that can be realistically and affordably produced, at least as far as military kits are concerned, but perhaps something like the WW2 German Seehund minisubs might work well... Personally, I think this might be a very good scale for the production of some interesting sailing craft, such as a Friendship Sloop, Catboat, or some of the European types of smallcraft (Essex Oyster Boat, or maybe a Bristol Channel Pilot Cutter), or even some of the more famous classic yachts........'Ticonderoga,' maybe?

searat12 wrote:

There also used to be a model company based in California named '38th parallel' that offered a 1/38 scale Type XXIII, a Type VIIC and a Gato as RC models, but again, wanted big bucks for them,

The company you're thinking of was called 32nd Parallel, and they offered fiberglass hulls of those models.

Firecaptain wrote:

I vote for a German E boat, or a Higgans PT boat

Italeri just released the Schnellboot, which the Brits called the E (for Enemy) boat. 

MicroGlass offers 1:32 scale fiberglass hulls for the 77' & 80' Elco and 78' Higgins PT boats; as well as several other patrol boats, tugboats, and variou small craft, such as the USCG 40' UTB, 44' & 47' MLB, and USN 26' MWB.

CG Bob wrote:

searat12 wrote:   There also used to be a model company based in California named '38th parallel' that offered a 1/38 scale Type XXIII, a Type VIIC and a Gato as RC models, but again, wanted big bucks for them, The company you're thinking of was called 32nd Parallel, and they offered fiberglass hulls of those models.

 

and they were 1/32 scale...generally for R/C.

 

and the 1/35 scale Type VII was Andreas Miniatures, IIRC.

That's right!  32nd Parallel!  They were very nice models too, as I recall.....

Good Sunday Morning,

I've been looking at the Italeri 35th. scale Elco for some months now and will be buying one in the new year, as a late winter project.

Have a 72nd. scale Schnellboot on the go right now and 72nd. Elco, Vosper and Tug on the shelf from years gone by. First Elco I built was back in about 1966 and this present one I did with the kids in the early 90's.

For years I've wanted someone to produce both a 72nd. and 35th. scale Higgins 78 footer. That would be my vote.

With all the current popularity, particularly in WWII and PT Boats, I think this is the logical succession. I've been impressed recently, with the number of web sites dedicated to these great little vessels and the interest in the models both static and radio control.

I would also like to see a 72nd. scale British Fairmile 'D' MTB and the Italian boat metioned in anther reply. The Italians actually did a lot of early developement of MTB's / PT Boats. 

Thanks for bringing the subject up. I've actually been thinking of writting both Revell and Italeri to suggest the three mentioned above. And the Italian boat is a really good suggestion also.

 

P.S. I prefer mid war boats and particularly on the 35th. scale, it would be nice to have version options. Which would have been great with the new Italeri edition. 

 

Hi again,

Can't figure out how to attach or insert a couple of small photos.

Can anyone help?

 

are they on your computer or on a site?

 

Hi,

On my computer and sized down to "medium."

have to put them on a hosting site like photobucket then link them from that site to here. i see you are in calagary as i'm just south of barrie, ontario.

Italeri just released the S-100 (I have it), this is the "E" boat I want them to release next, or really any 35th scale "torpedo" boat for that matter!

http://ipms.armorama.co.uk/modules.php?op=modload&name=Reviews&file=index&req=showcontent&id=3131

 

CG Bob wrote:

Firecaptain wrote: I vote for a German E boat, or a Higgans PT boat Italeri just released the Schnellboot, which the Brits called the E (for Enemy) boat.

You didn't make it clear that you wanted the S-7 class of S-boat.  The Germans had several classes of S-boat besides the S-7 and S-100. 

Just like the US had several classes of PT boats: Elco 70, 77, & 80 ft; Huckins 78 ft; Higgins 77 ft.

My vote would be for an Italian MAS (Motobarca Armata Svan o Silurante) from the First World War, particularly the MAS 3 to 22 series. With a prototype length of ~50 ft., 1/35 is a perfect scale for the  MAS boats

There is an obvious connection between the Italian Navy and Italeri, but more importantly, last June was the 90th anniversary of the sinking of the Austro-Hungarian dreadnought Szent Istvan by Captain Luigi Rizzo in MAS 15.

Seven months earlier, Captain Rizzo had commanded a two boat MAS flotilla (MAS 9, MAS 11) which sank the pre-dreadnought Wien.

MAS boats mounted attacks on at least five battleships during the war, sinking 2 and only losing one boat to hostile action, MAS 16.

As sexy as the  E-boats and PT-boats were, there were no battleship killers, nor, as far as I know, any hits on a battleship... granted, defensive tactics and fire control had greatly improved between 1918 and 1939. But the fact remains, the E and PT boats owed much of their existence to the success of the MAS. 

As a postscript, Captain Rizzo was a lecturer after the war on torpedo boat design.

While we are at it, I'd vote for these actions for inclusion in the top 10 wish list for a movie.

Greetings from OZ,

My vote would be any one (preferably ALL) of the following --

Vosper MTB, either the 70 footer or a 72'6" mounting a 20mm on the foredeck.

Fairmile D ('Dog Boat') MGB or MTB.

Fairmile B ML.

Now an enterprising model company with some vision and forethought could??? include enough optional parts in ALL of these kits to build ANY of the subtle and varied variations that each of these boats had. For example the Vosper COULD?? have the extra parts needed to do the additional 2'6" added to the stern, plus some of the 'other' guns they were fitted with -- in some cases two Oerlikons or a twin one and just to add a tad more interest, an Italian 20mm Breda. I believe the 'Med' based MTB 61 carried up to SIX Breda's?

The 'Dog Boat' COULD??? have enough parts in the one kit to do either the MGB or the MTB version and could also include single Oerlikons, 2 and 6 pounders and manual and powered twin 20mm Oerlikons, the same idea for the Fairmile B as they had NUMEROUS weapons configurations. The Aussie ones and some 'Med' based ones carried Bofors guns and a few 'Med' based boats again carried Breda 20mm's.

I think the idea of including a GOOD range of 'optional extras' just MIGHT??? encourage modellers to buy more than one, I for one would have to give this VERY serious consideration.

Watch this space for a forthcoming range of "Allied Light Coastal Forces" models from both World Wars in 144th scale with a bit of a foray into 72nd scale and I am 'tinkering' with the RAN's Fairmile B class ML 825 in 35th scale!!!!!!! I have almost finished a HDML and ML 825 in 144th scale and of course will post photo's upon completion, but please be patient I still have to work out certain things to finish them off.

Roger Pearson. Bendigo, Australia.

"Roger's Little Ships".

 

Ok, that's it then!

I know it's early but I think we have a majority.

Number one would be a Higgins 78 footer, followed by a Fairmile D, with one of the Italian MAS boats in between.

(with liberal version options, and Canadian and Australian instructions).

 

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I'd like to have a 1/35 model of the Russian huge sub "Typhoon" :)

The Fairmile series in 1/72 would be great, but a Vosper in 1/35th would be even better!

Jim

 

Go and take your 1/720 Supercarriers and enlarge them to 1/350. A gold mine.

 

A Russian Typhoon in 35th. scale?

That would be large scale. Very cool, but...

Ha! Chuckle,

Questions that come to mind:

Will you be able to get it out of your basement or will be displayed there?

Will this be static, radio controled or manned?

Do you have a trailer hitch?

Does your wife know?

How big is your fish tank? (see: How to rust up a U-Boat)

Ok, ok, sorry. I know it's not unrealistic at all. I've seen the 35th. and 32nd. scale radio controled Gatto's and U-Boats and they are really big but very, very nice. And a 35th. scale Typhoon would be very, very cool.

There might even be one, Check out "Subron 6" for a great site and some terrific links, if you haven't already. Lot's of large scale stuff being done and available in Europe, some great web sites showing what they have built and making available by request and pre-order.

Cheers!

 

And you all thought I was mad asking for a 1/35 U-Boat!!!

Scale Shipyard has a fiberglass hull in 1:32 scale for a Type IX-C U-boat, the U-505.  They also have a fiberglass hull for the USS ASHEVILLE PG-84 class of gunboats in 1:35 scale.  Still too small?  Their biggest hull is the USS NIMITZ in 1:96 scale - a full 11 feet 4 inches long.

MicroGlass probably produces the largest scale fiberglass hull for a patrol boat - the Elco 77' PT in 1:10th scale.  You'll have to scratch build everything from the deck up.

I would also vote for the Italian WWII torpedo boats or one of the British Vosper boats, especially my favorite, the Air Sea Rescue Launch.

Italeri already produces the 20mm Breda gun in 1/35th scale so that is already done. Its available separately (just released) or as part of the Camionetta AS 42 Sahriana kit.

Mike T.