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Aoshima/Fujimi 1/350 Kongo/Kirishima comparisons

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Aoshima/Fujimi 1/350 Kongo/Kirishima comparisons
Posted by searat12 on Wednesday, December 3, 2008 2:48 PM

Well, my Aoshima 'Kirishima' arrived, which allowed me to compare it with the Fujimi 'Kongo' kit that I purchased last Summer.  I have heard a number of people complaining about the Fujimi kit, but as far as i have been able to determine, it is significantly superior to the Aoshima kit in just about every feature but one.  As has been mentioned elsewhere, the Fujimi kit has the secondary armament casemate embrasures wrong (trapeziodal), while the Aoshima kit has it right (rectangular), and here is the photo to demonstrate, with the Aoshima kit hull above, and the Fujimi kit hull below:

However, The Aoshima kit has the anti-torpedo bulge all wrong, by blending it smoothly into the hull, while the Fujimi kit shows the definite points of attachment to this 'add-on' feature that was installed in the 1930's as part of a general upgrade of these ships (and a similar feature is found on the 'Takao' class cruisers).  Have a look at this photo, and again, the Aoshima kit is above, and the Fujimi kit is below:

 

The next big issue involves the main guns, which are quite crudely molded in the Aoshima kit, but are quite well done in the Fujimi kit.  It appears the Aoshima main guns are scaled too large by a pretty fair margin!  Have a look at the photo, and note, the guns on the sprue are from the Aoshima kit, the guns on the turret to the left are the plastic guns that came with the Fujimi kit, and the guns on the turret above are turned brass guns that were also included with the Fujimi kit:

Other issues... In general, the Fujimi kit appears to be molded to a much finer standard, with things like plateline welds on the hull done very subtly, and in sum, if you can get past the casemate issue, the Fujimi kit appears to be the superior model in every other respect.

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Posted by Chuck Fan on Wednesday, December 3, 2008 4:52 PM
The pictures are not displaying on my monitor.
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Posted by caramonraistlin on Wednesday, December 3, 2008 6:04 PM

Searat12:

Greetings. I quite agree with your coments regarding the Fujimi Kongo. I think it is a superb model and have been somewhat dismayed as to the lack of response or dismissal of it because of the casement issue. I awhile ago posted on another forum observations very similar to your own and got no responses. I have the much vaunted Aoshima Atago cruiser and after building it I will never buy another one. I particularly disliked Aoshima's treatment of the separate bilge keels and how they attached. Basically thery were thin rectangular pieces of plastic with 2 round attachment posts that went into 2 oversized holes in the hull. The main problem was the O.D. of the posts was greater than the thickness of the bilge keel (in other words they stuck out on the sides). When you glued them in place they looked like an after thought that had just been tacked on. I filed the sides of the posts flush with the bilge keel, glued the bilge keels in place and then puttied/sanded them to shape such that they blended into the hull. This just put me off regarding the rest of the build. When it was announced that Aoshima was also doing a Kongo, I  decided no way, I'm getting the Fujima one instead. I have not been sorry. One thing I just noticed in regards to the casements, Fujima produced them to the same shape that they did on an older release of the Kongo in 1/450 scale. I'm wondering now did they make the same mistake twice or are they really supposed to be trapezoidal? I don't know. It's just curious that they have done this the same way twice. I haven't started to build my Kongo but plan to do so in the future. Right I'm trying to get up the initiative to tackle the Hasegawa 1/350 Akagi I just got.

 

Sincerely

 

 Michael Lacey

 

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Posted by searat12 on Thursday, December 4, 2008 7:56 AM
Tried again with the photos...
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Posted by searat12 on Thursday, December 4, 2008 8:54 AM
 caramonraistlin wrote:

Searat12:

Greetings. I quite agree with your coments regarding the Fujimi Kongo. I think it is a superb model and have been somewhat dismayed as to the lack of response or dismissal of it because of the casement issue. I awhile ago posted on another forum observations very similar to your own and got no responses. I have the much vaunted Aoshima Atago cruiser and after building it I will never buy another one. I particularly disliked Aoshima's treatment of the separate bilge keels and how they attached. Basically thery were thin rectangular pieces of plastic with 2 round attachment posts that went into 2 oversized holes in the hull. The main problem was the O.D. of the posts was greater than the thickness of the bilge keel (in other words they stuck out on the sides). When you glued them in place they looked like an after thought that had just been tacked on. I filed the sides of the posts flush with the bilge keel, glued the bilge keels in place and then puttied/sanded them to shape such that they blended into the hull. This just put me off regarding the rest of the build. When it was announced that Aoshima was also doing a Kongo, I  decided no way, I'm getting the Fujima one instead. I have not been sorry. One thing I just noticed in regards to the casements, Fujima produced them to the same shape that they did on an older release of the Kongo in 1/450 scale. I'm wondering now did they make the same mistake twice or are they really supposed to be trapezoidal? I don't know. It's just curious that they have done this the same way twice. I haven't started to build my Kongo but plan to do so in the future. Right I'm trying to get up the initiative to tackle the Hasegawa 1/350 Akagi I just got.

 

Sincerely

 

 Michael Lacey

 

Yes, I had some problems with my 'Atago' as well, not so much the anti-torpedo bulges (which really are supposed to look 'added on,' because that's precisely what they were!), but with the fit of such things as the torpedo sponsons, and the fit of the superstructure where it joins with the first after main gun turret... Perhaps they fit bettwer on the 'Chokai' or 'Maya,' but have my doubts!  In sum, I think Fujimi appears to have a more delicate hand and more careful scaling in producing masters for their molds, and so will look to them for future productions.....
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Posted by Gaston on Thursday, July 10, 2014 1:17 PM

One thing I did not like with Fujimi Battleships is that hulls with a flat bottom (like all battleships) have the bottom caved-in from too quick a mould exit (this on all 3 of the following, so I suspect most if not all of their battleship range: Observed on: Yamashiro, Fuso, Ise).

 Also the prow on all of them seems to have a very blunt edge, and this is very difficult to sharpen within the join itself, despite the apparent ease of this procedure: There is so much plastic to remove, the join wants to lean to one side if "pinching" is attempted, and you should attempt it as the thickness is so overboard you need to "pinch" the prow's edge slightly, not just sharpen it from within the join, if the bow's appearance is to look plausible....

 By contrast, Aoshima's Myoko was the most trouble-free ship kit I have ever assembled. I do agree the Aoshima Takao/Atago/Maya are poory executed, as the hull add-ons are not faired in enough and look terrible. Also the superstructure is not that accurate: I highly recomment the Myoko instead, which is completely different, with no separate torpedo belts/bilge keels, and the best ship kit I have seen in many respects. The only bad point is the Myoko's lack of degaussing cable, which Fujimi does always provide moulded-on (bless them). Aoshima's Nagara class does have the cable moulded on, and are excellent as well.

 Gaston

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