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PT-boat crew
Posted by Grem56 on Wednesday, December 31, 2008 2:36 AM

Just received the Italeri 1/35 PT-boat crew (ordered it in case I ever get round to building the PT-boat). Rather underwhelmed by the moulding of the figures. As crisp as the PT-boat is the figures themselves are rather mushy and will need a lot of work to make them presentable. Bit of a disappointment after the two boats .

Julian

 

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Posted by Jon_a_its on Friday, January 2, 2009 3:11 AM
I've got the Italeri LCM & LVCT, the figures are rubbish!
So was cynical & waited till I saw them at Telford, & agree with you!
I have a similar thought here: /forums/1060248/ShowPost.aspx

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Posted by vonBerlichingen on Friday, January 2, 2009 9:25 AM

Am I correct in supposing that some manufacturers of more technical models (e.g. ships) may not necessarily be very skilled at producing figures?

Anyway, I know very little about PT-boat crews, but I am wondering if you might be able to find something in "54mm scale"? Of course, that would be assuming that it is the older feet-to-crown-of-head measure that used to correspond to 1/32nd, rather than the so-called "Barrett scale" feet-to-eyes measure of miniature gaming.

Also, might some 1/35th plastic landlubbers be convertible into PT-boat crew?

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Posted by jtilley on Friday, January 2, 2009 10:15 AM

Several other companies have released figures designed for this kit.  Here's a link to the ones Squadron Mail Order carries; I suspect there are others:  http://www.squadron.com/SearchResults.asp?offset=0 .  That list highlights the big virtue of the Italeri set:  price.

Von Berlichingen's comment about the skills required to design figures vs. those to design mechanical devices made me think of the old Renwall military vehicle kits.  Olde Phogies like me probably remember them fondly; they were big, complicated, and well detailed (at least by the standards of the time), and had lots of moving parts.  And Renwall had some interesting ideas about assembly methods.  (Remember those plates that covered up the big holes in the hull bottoms - after you'd attached the various exterior parts by putting glue on them from the inside?  Or the little coil springs that made the suspension of the Walker Bulldog work?)  And the crew figures, even to an eight-year-old like I was at the time, looked like mutant zombies.

I particularly remember the Renwall Patton tank.  It had two crew figures attached to the gun breech, so when you lowered the muzzle the guys would pop out of the turret hatches.  One of them had a look on his face that probably would make you stuff him back in as quickly as possible.  The first time I built it I didn't have a bottle of Testor's gloss flesh color (the standard for figure painting) on hand (or the dime necessary to buy a new bottle), so I used "aircraft cream" dope.  The dope, of course, ate mercilessly into the styrene - but in this case that was an improvement.

Those kits sure were fun.  I'd love to see them come back on the market - figures and all.  (I think my first choice would be the "Skysweeper" anti-aircraft gun.)  They do show up on various websites now and then, but at prices that are too much for the likes of me.

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Posted by vonBerlichingen on Saturday, January 3, 2009 8:07 AM
I used to have one of those Walker Bulldogs, and remember that the crew were skinny, with oddly tapered (from above) feet and somewhat misshapen faces.
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Posted by RickF on Saturday, January 3, 2009 6:36 PM

I got a Walker Bulldog kit for Christmas in 1959 or 60. I remember it being well detailed, but can't remember the manufacturer and I'm pretty certain there was no crew. Was this a Renwall, or were there other suppliers? Sorry this is going OT

Rick

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Posted by jtilley on Saturday, January 3, 2009 9:14 PM

I think Tamiya did a Walker Bulldog fairly early in the company's existence, but 1960 seems a bit early for it.  I also have an extremely vague recollection that one of the toy companies (ITC maybe?) may have done a big one - with a motor, wired remote control, and stuff like that.  But that may be my senile memory talking.

I don't know the exact release date of the Renwal version.  (Sorry I misspelled the company name earlier; my fault.)  But I think it was indeed around at the date in question.  It was indeed a highly-detailed kit, with lots of parts - including those little coil springs for the suspension.  (Nostalgia does, of course, create rose-colored glasses; I'm sure the thing wouldn't hold up to modern standards.  But to modelers of the fifties it looked great.)  Maybe RickF's subconscious is blotting out his recollection of the crew figures.  They really were dreadful. 

I found an ad for this kit on the web:  http://www.oldmodelkits.com/index.php?detail=4665&manu=Renwal .  Note the price.  Yow.

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Posted by constructor on Monday, January 5, 2009 12:35 AM
 RickF wrote:

I got a Walker Bulldog kit for Christmas in 1959 or 60. I remember it being well detailed, but can't remember the manufacturer and I'm pretty certain there was no crew. Was this a Renwall, or were there other suppliers? Sorry this is going OT

Rick

It was Renwal alright. It's really a pity crewing your PT boat with ghostlike figures

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