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Plastic Warship kits.Advice for beginner pls.

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  • Member since
    February 2004
  • From: Weymouth, Dorset, UK
Posted by chris hall on Thursday, April 16, 2009 3:13 PM

What the other guys have said, and welcome aboard!

My advice would be to build a boat, not a ship. There are some fine large-scale boat kits available, and building one will re-familiarise you with plastic model shipbuilding skills. I'd start with something like the Airfix 1/72 Vosper MTB or RAF Rescue Launch. Despite being well over 30 years old, they're fine, accurate kits, not too difficult to build and suitable for painting with a brush. That said, you can go a long way, especially with hulls and weather decks,  with spray cans and masking tape.

Another very good starting point is the Revell Germany 1/72 S-boot - accurate, excllent detail and inexpensive.

Cheers, and good luck,

Chris.

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  • From: Portsmouth, RI
Posted by searat12 on Thursday, April 16, 2009 2:39 PM
Welcome aboard TSK!  In answer to your question, I think the best initial kit for the money would be the Tamiya USS Fletcher in 1/350 scale.  It is very well molded (Tamiya's are always good!), goes together really well, creates a very accurate scale model without a million pieces, and will only cost you around $20.  The Dragon USS Buchanan is a really nice kit too, but it is a fair bit more expensive, so perhaps it is better to start off with something affordable, and see how it goes?  Forget ALL the Lindberg kits, as they are pretty much all ancient, highly inaccurate reissues of kits from the 1960's....
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    August 2008
Posted by tankerbuilder on Thursday, April 16, 2009 10:15 AM
Hi!  I probably will get a lot of bad reactions for this ,but here goes. I would recommend starting with any available Lindberg ship you can find .. Their BISMARK isn,t to bad for a starter . No, she,s not perfect ,but she,s a nice size . This kit will give you a chance to develop your skills . When you get better in the detailing dept. you can add potoetched rails , ladders ,stairs etc. and this ship looks great this way . There are a lot of models out there ,but , you alone must decide . How much are you willing to pay for a model you might not do a perfect (in your eyes)job, is up to you . I do hope you make a wise choice . The TRUMPETER and other ships ( FLETCHER DESTROYER for instance ) are not CHEAP !!!!  The best thing to do is to start this way .COST ,QUALITY ,AVAILABILITY AND your SKILL level . GOOD LUCK AND PLEASE post some pics. You are to be advised that these ships will or might require a little filling . The DRAGON and TRUMPETER kits usually dont . In that vein I would recommend the trumpeter Fletcher destroyer .. Tankerbuilder
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  • From: Mansfield, TX
Posted by EdGrune on Thursday, April 16, 2009 9:40 AM
 thunder1 wrote:

Lastly  FINE SCALE MODELER published a book (by reknown builder Mike Ashey) entitled  "Building and Detailing Scale Model Ships".  I believe it is still in print, the book contains many good tips on building any type of plastic and resin model ships.

Mike Ashey has taken the production of several of his books back to his own operations.   His first ship book you note "Building and Detailing Scale Model Ships" is available free from his website at

http://mikeashey.com/BOOK-FIRST%20SHIP.htm

http://mikeashey.com/BOOK-INDEX-PAGE%20.htm

His second book Building Ship Models, an Illustrated Guide is still a Kalmbach publication.  IMO it is the better of the two

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    May 2006
Posted by thunder1 on Thursday, April 16, 2009 8:29 AM

Hello TSK

Welcome to the wide world of model ship building. You are correct, plastic models of any subject are head and shoulders above kits from 15- 20 years ago.  Add to that the variety of models(especially ships) available today and you have a great opportunity to get back into building quality models at an affordable price. There are many questions you have and many informational outlets availible to you. First and foremost is the internet, you'll never have to model as a "lone wolf". There are many ship model websites, just look 'em up, the wealth of info is amazing.

In the short term I'd suggest a sub model, or something similar, just to refresh yourself with the basics of modeling a ship. If you go with a surface ship, try an inexpensive model, go visit a well stocked hobby shop, and make a purchase, ask for advice from store personnel. As for painting...I have been modeling for a LONG tine and I stink at brush painting. Nothing enhances a model like a fine paint job but few modelers I know use brush painting. No airbrush, don't worry, there are a ton of "Rattle Can"(spray paint) colors availible to paint your model, many military colors to choose from. Tamiya offers the best quality spray paint on the market, it's a lacquer product, dries fast, and goes on like an airbrush. They are expensive however, and you should only spray outdoors or in a wide open area with good ventilation. For my money, a good air brush and a compressor are the way to go. The airbrush "system" is an investment, but worth it in the long run, I would guess most serious, long term builders own one(or two)!

Lastly  FINE SCALE MODELER published a book (by reknown builder Mike Ashey) entitled  "Building and Detailing Scale Model Ships".  I believe it is still in print, the book contains many good tips on building any type of plastic and resin model ships.

 Well, that's my two cents, good luck!

Mike M. 

 

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  • From: brisbane australia
Posted by surfsup on Thursday, April 16, 2009 7:28 AM
Hi TSK. While I like the above options, I would probably lean to the Tamiya 1-350 Fletcher. It is not as complicated a build as the Dragon Kits and does not contain Photoetch. It will still build into a lovely model. It would be a good base to hone your shipbuilding skills on before you tackle one of the Dragon Jewels. 

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  • From: Windy city, US
Posted by keilau on Wednesday, April 15, 2009 8:42 PM

Any of the Dragon 1:350 scale Gleaves-Benson class smart kits are very good. You have a choice of at least 5 different versions.

Also by Dragon, the 1:350 modern destroyer kits of the Arleigh Burke Class are slight larger in size, thus, easier to handle. The latest release is the U.S.S. Preble DDG-88. Earlier versions had minor fit and accuracy problems which seemed to be corrected later.

All of these kits are very good in fit and general quality. They include one or two pieces of photo-etched fret that are optional and allow you to try the PE if you so wish. Beginners will find them very satisfying without being overwhelmed.

Best yet, any of them can be easily found for under $40-50 either from LHS or by net purchase.

 

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    December 2002
Posted by rayers on Wednesday, April 15, 2009 3:36 PM

Lots of better modelers than me will probably weigh in on this, but I would suggest the Dragon USS Buchanan. It is a WWII US Navy Fletcher-class destroyer in 1/350 scale, which is the most common "big" ship modeling scale. It will build up into a great-looking model right out of the box. The kit includes two frets of photo-etched metal parts but it also has plastic parts for most of the larger p/e items if you are uncomfortable with photo-etch. The kit will look good without them; with them it is supposed to be spectacular (I haven't bought it yet myself but everyone I talked to says it's outstanding).

 Here's a review from another site with pictures of the sprues so you can see what you're getting:

http://www.modelwarships.com/reviews/ships/dd/dd-484/350-dr/dragon-review.html

Don't worry about not having an airbrush. Do a search on this site for "brush painting" and you'll find lots of hints and tips. Good luck!

TSK
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    April 2008
Plastic Warship kits.Advice for beginner pls.
Posted by TSK on Wednesday, April 15, 2009 3:14 PM

Hello,This is my first post here so please forgive this basic question.

I would like to get back into model kits after many many years.I have been looking at mags and realise kits are far better now but would like some help,firstly kit choice.I do not know the best scale to go for being a newbee.Cost is no problem and i have no real preferance on subject,be it battleship,destroyer carrier.I would like to go with early rather than modern.Getting back to scale i would like something that is easy to work on and i do not know what scale that would be.Also is there a good manufacturer to go with.I would really like a kit that as no seams etc to fill/sand at this point(if that is even a possibilty)

Lastly i would like to eventually put some on show i realise my first attempts will be awful but can i get a good model with no airbrush.There is no way i can get and use a airbrush.

So can anyone recommend a go get kit?

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