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Revell Cutty Sark H-393 instructions (HELP!)

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Thursday, April 30, 2009 7:39 PM

 jtilley wrote:
to confess that my ignoramus's taste in poetry

That is far hasher decriptive language than I should ever dare use; especially when I was so cleary off the mark.

Even worse with Burns on my bookshelf <sigh>

The Rime is better read aloud to be appreciated; this can also be true of Kipling, too, or other's writing phonectically in argot, cant, or creole languages.

Or, at least so I shall opine, not having been in any malt lately.

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Posted by Big Jake on Thursday, April 30, 2009 7:51 AM

Hey John,

Thanks for the tip, I found a 1916 edition in great condition with full color prints.  One other line he is famous for is right up the Forums ally!

"I must go down to the sea again, to the lonely sea and the sky; and all I ask is a tall ship and a star to steer her by."

He sure had a way with words!

Jake

 

 

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Posted by Big Jake on Tuesday, April 28, 2009 9:48 AM

I'll try to find a copy, Thanks

Jake

 

 

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Posted by jtilley on Monday, April 27, 2009 10:45 PM

I think I fought my way through The Rime of the Ancient Mariner, but if so it was a long, long time ago.  I certainly agree that it's a masterpiece - though I also wonder how much Coleridge actually knew about seafaring.  (Take a look at a photo of a full-grown albatross.  It has a wingspan of four feet or more.  Hanging such a critter around somebody's neck would leave that person utterly incapacitated.)

I also remember a reference to the first line (I think) in an article by another of my favorite authors, the baseball commentator Roger Angell.  The line in question reads:  "It is an ancient mariner, and he stoppeth one in three."  It seems a group of sportswriters attending spring training in Florida one year nicknamed a certain rookie shortstop "the Ancient Mariner."  Think about it.

I have to confess that my ignoramus's taste in poetry tends toward the simpler stuff - the sort I can actually read without stopping every few lines to looks something up.  A few months back I found a used copy of John Masefield's Saltwater Poems and Ballads on the web for something less than $5.00.  It's a wonderful old edition from the 1930s, illustrated with pen-and-ink sketches and color paintings.  (I imagine it was originally quite expensive by the standards of that era.)  I keep it on the bedside table, and frequently tell myself I'm going to read one poem in it before I turn out the light.  I usually end up reading three or four.  Wonderful stuff - by a man who really did know about ships and the sea.

Youth, talent, hard work, and enthusiasm are no match for old age and treachery.

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Posted by Big Jake on Monday, April 27, 2009 9:22 PM

John,

In my collection of first editions I have a 1898 (100 yr. edition) binded copy of  "The Rime of the Ancient Mariner" it took me several hours for read that one.  It is the world's longest poem well worth reading.  How he did it, is beyond me, it's quite beautiful.

Most folks only know of a few popular sections in it such as:

Day after day, day after day,
We stuck, nor breath nor motion;
As idle as a painted ship
Upon a painted ocean.

Water, water, everywhere,
And all the boards did shrink;
Water, water, everywhere,
Nor any drop to drink

For those of you who have never read it it fits right up there along with other great nauticle books.  Here is a overview I founbd on the web.

 

The Mariner's tale begins with his ship departing on its journey. Despite initial good fortune, the ship is driven south off course by a storm and eventually reaches Antarctica. An albatross appears and leads them out of the Antarctic, but even as the albatross is praised by the ship's crew, the Mariner shoots the bird - (with my cross-bow / I shot the albatross). The crew is angry with the Mariner, believing the albatross brought the South Wind that led them out of the Antarctic - (Ah, wretch, said they / the bird to slay / that made the breeze to blow). However, the sailors change their minds when the weather becomes warmer and the mist disappears: ('Twas right, said they, such birds to slay / that bring the fog and mist). The crime arouses the wrath of spirits who then pursue the ship "from the land of mist and snow"; the south wind which had initially led them from the land of ice now sends the ship into uncharted waters, where it is becalmed.

Here, however, the sailors change their minds again and blame the Mariner for the torment of their thirst. In anger, the crew forces the Mariner to wear the dead albatross about his neck, perhaps to illustrate the burden he must suffer from killing it, or perhaps as a sign of regret (Ah! Well a-day! What evil looks / Had I from old and young! / Instead of the cross, the albatross / About my neck was hung). Eventually, in an eerie passage, the ship encounters a ghostly vessel. On board are Death (a skeleton) and the "Night-mare Life-in-Death" (a deathly-pale woman), who are playing dice for the souls of the crew. With a roll of the dice, Death wins the lives of the crew members and Life-in-Death the life of the Mariner, a prize she considers more valuable. Her name is a clue as to the Mariner's fate; he will endure a fate worse than death as punishment for his killing of the albatross.

One by one all of the crew members die, but the Mariner lives on, seeing for seven days and nights the curse in the eyes of the crew's corpses, whose last expressions remain upon their faces. Eventually, the Mariner's curse is lifted when he sees sea creatures swimming in the water. Despite his cursing them as "slimy things" earlier in the poem (Yea, slimy things did crawl with legs / upon the slimy sea), he suddenly sees their true beauty and blesses them (a spring of love gush'd from my heart and I bless'd them unaware); suddenly, as he manages to pray, the albatross falls from his neck and his guilt is partially expiated. The bodies of the crew, possessed by good spirits, rise again and steer the ship back home, where it sinks in a whirlpool, leaving only the Mariner behind. A hermit on the mainland had seen the approaching ship, and had come to meet it with a pilot and the pilot's boy in a boat. This hermit may have been a priest who took a vow of isolation. When they pull him from the water, they think he is dead, but when he opens his mouth, the pilot has a fit. The hermit prays, and the Mariner picks up the oars to row. The pilot's boy goes crazy and laughs, thinking the Mariner is the devil, and says "The Devil knows how to row." As penance for shooting the albatross, the Mariner is forced to wander the earth and tell his story, and teach a lesson to those he meets

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by jtilley on Monday, April 27, 2009 6:17 PM

Jake - Yes the petry dishes came.  I sent you a PM about them some time back; didn't it come through?  Anyway, many thanks.  They'll come in handy for all sorts of things.  Let me know if I can reciprocate.

I confess I've never been a Burns enthusiast - mainly because, unless you're Scottish, it takes so much work to fight through the dialect that the tone of the poem gets lost.  (I don't know much about the history of Scottish dialects; I wonder if the typical modern Scotsman finds Burns easy to read.)  But I guess every Cutty Sark enthusiast ought to read "Tam O'Shanter" at least once in his/her lifetime.

Youth, talent, hard work, and enthusiasm are no match for old age and treachery.

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Posted by Big Jake on Monday, April 27, 2009 5:42 PM

John,

I read through the poem, glad that's over whew. BTW did you get the containers in yet, Rod got his.

 

Jake

 

 

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Posted by Big Jake on Monday, April 27, 2009 5:37 PM

Bill

Email me direct and I'll forward them to you also, That goes for all other members who would car efor it. JUST MAKE sure you put in the subject line Cutty Sark Inst. so I won't think it is junk mail.

jbgroby@charter.net 

Jake

 

 

 

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Posted by warshipguy on Monday, April 27, 2009 8:55 AM

Big Jake,

I, too, would be interested in those corrections. Also, I have a copy of the short history booklet about Cutty Sark that Revell used to provide in their large-scale sailing ships.  I can copy it for anyone interested.

Bill Morrison

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Posted by Dreadnought52 on Monday, April 27, 2009 8:14 AM
The thing about boards like this is that you will eventually find out the most esoteric things if you wait long enough! I never could get the connection to the Cutty Sark name. Given the propensity of ship builders to reach into myth and antiquity I should have guessed that there was a connection like that but I must admit connecting a short chemise and mythology went right by me. Bravo, literary responders! WS
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Posted by jtilley on Monday, April 27, 2009 1:51 AM

Actually the term comes from "Tam O'Shanter," a poem by Robert Burns.

Tam O'Shanter, it seems, was a slightly roguish Scotsman who, riding home through a forest after a lengthy session at the local pub, chanced upon a collection of witches and warlocks dancing in a clearing.  The witches were wearing white cutty sarks (or "short chemises").  At the conclusion of the dance, Tam "roared out, 'Weel done, cutty-sark!' And in an instant all was dark."  (That seems like a slightly strange thing to roar out, but he'd obviously spent quite a bit of time at the pub.)  Tam and his horse, Meg, took off running.  One of the witches, Nanny, gave chase, and came so close to catching them that she yanked a hank of hair out of Meg's tail.

Here's the text of the poem - but good luck with the Scottish dialect:  http://www.robertburns.org/works/308.shtml

The figurehead of the Cutty Sark is a sculpture of Nanny, the witch.  (The Revell version is a beautiful casting - actually considerably better looking, to my Dirty Old Man's eye, than the original.)  It's painted white, with a gold hem around the cutty sark.  After a noteworthy passage the owner, John Willis, presented the ship with a sheet-metal weather vane in the shape of a flattened-out cutty sark to fasten to the main truck.  And it became a tradition among the crew to put a hank of horsehair in Nanny's outstretched hand when the ship was homeward bound.

Another interesting piece of decoration on the ship is the carved badge on the stern.  It's the badge of the Willis family, a "W" surrounded by a garter bearing the family motto (brace yourself): "Where There's A Willis Away."  Fortunately the lettering is quite small; on any but a very-large-scale model it's illegible.

Youth, talent, hard work, and enthusiasm are no match for old age and treachery.

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Sunday, April 26, 2009 10:59 PM

 Dreadnought52 wrote:
A Cutty Sark is a short chemise ( a slip or undergarment). Why anybody would name a ship that I don't know...

Literary reference to one of the stories of Rob Roy, the Scot's adventurer of note.

If I recall correctly, our man Roy is off on his travels and runs afoul of shees or banshees (I forget which) and he legs it to safety.  But, only being larger-than-life, he begins to tire and the shees chasing him begin to catch up.  At this point a lass on horseback appears.  Rob leaps up behind her and way they ride, and he clutches on to her cutty sark to stay mounted in the mad gallop.  They ride and rider right through the night.  The dawn finds Roy safely out of the dire woods, alone.  No sign of horse or girl--only her cutty sark.

Possession of the Sark was said to give the bearer supernatural speed when needed, and if the bearer were of sufficient moral character.   (Although being a skilled raconteur would seem to help.)  I want to remember that there are tales of those who thought they had skillfully lifted or traded for the Sark to find, in the light of day, to have nothing but blonde horse hare (mane or tail, depending on the teller).

So, naming a ship for a talisman of fleetness, and one that would trick usurpers and louts and brigands not all that inapt.

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Posted by Dreadnought52 on Friday, April 24, 2009 9:47 PM
The kit is of the Cutty Sark not shark. Happily the previous poster has the information that you need. As a point of interest the name of the ship refers to an item of clothing. A Cutty Sark is a short chemise ( a slip or undergarment). Why anybody would name a ship that I don't know...
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Posted by Big Jake on Friday, April 24, 2009 6:17 PM

Dan,

I can make you a set next week, email me direct at jbgroby@charter.net  with your mailing address. Also I have written an compedium to the instructions that correct a few mistakes and give some general pointers on build the big Revell kit, I can email those if you care to have them.  Ther follow step by step on the model instructions.

Jake

 

 

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Revell Cutty Sark H-393 instructions (HELP!)
Posted by sledawg on Friday, April 24, 2009 10:38 AM

Fellow modelers,

    I just got a vintage model kit in mint condition of the Cutty Sark by Revell (H-393) 1/96 scale thats 3 feet long. But there was no instructions!  Can any body out there help me with a set? I'd be very grateful.

Thanks,

Dan

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