...war crime?

If your name is Doenitz you will be tried.

Doenitz is charged with waging unrestricted submarine warfare contrary to the Naval Protocol of 1936 to which Germany acceded, and which reaffirmed the rules of submarine warfare laid down in the London Naval Agreement of 1930.

The prosecution has submitted that on 3rd September, 1939, the German U-boat arm began to wage unrestricted submarine warfare upon all merchant ships, whether enemy or neutral, cynically disregarding the Protocol; ad that a calculated effort was made throughout the war to disguise this practice by making hypocritical references to international law and Supposed violations by the Allies.

See also

War Order No. 154

War Order No. 154 was issued end of November or the beginning of December 1939.

and,

Laconia Order

What does it mean if it had the funnels painted white with green "X's" on them??? 

Maybe it was neutral? Uh, oh...

X would seem to mark the spot on the sea bed...........................................

Julian

Viktor1982 wrote:

I think that in the case of the Laconia incident, the Germans helped the passengers at sea and where afterwards attacked by USAF planes which disregarded the truce issued between the two sides in order to lead the survivors of Laconia to a safer place.

I am sorry guys, but it seems I cannot follow the spirit of this discussion....

Someone to fit me in?

Viktor1982 wrote:

I am sorry guys, but it seems I cannot follow the spirit of this discussion....   Someone to fit me in?

I believe it is a computer simulation game.

Or PS2, Xbox etc.

Mansteins revenge wrote:

Viktor1982 wrote: I think that in the case of the Laconia incident, the Germans helped the passengers at sea and where afterwards attacked by USAF planes which disregarded the truce issued between the two sides in order to lead the survivors of Laconia to a safer place. I made no such attempt...it was night and the ocean had 12 foot swells, and I saw no boats lowered or in the water after she sank...elapsed time from torpedo srike to sinking was approx. 13 minutes...very fast...

Was the ship all lit up like a carnival? Then you probably sunk a hospital ship, congratulations!

subfixer wrote:

Mansteins revenge wrote:  Viktor1982 wrote: I think that in the case of the Laconia incident, the Germans helped the passengers at sea and where afterwards attacked by USAF planes which disregarded the truce issued between the two sides in order to lead the survivors of Laconia to a safer place. I made no such attempt...it was night and the ocean had 12 foot swells, and I saw no boats lowered or in the water after she sank...elapsed time from torpedo srike to sinking was approx. 13 minutes...very fast... Was the ship all lit up like a carnival? Then you probably sunk a hospital ship, congratulations!

Mansteins revenge wrote:

subfixer wrote:  Mansteins revenge wrote:  Viktor1982 wrote: I think that in the case of the Laconia incident, the Germans helped the passengers at sea and where afterwards attacked by USAF planes which disregarded the truce issued between the two sides in order to lead the survivors of Laconia to a safer place. I made no such attempt...it was night and the ocean had 12 foot swells, and I saw no boats lowered or in the water after she sank...elapsed time from torpedo srike to sinking was approx. 13 minutes...very fast... Was the ship all lit up like a carnival? Then you probably sunk a hospital ship, congratulations! Thanks, but I don't think it was...no red crosses, just green X's on the funnels...

Too bad, you would probably get double bonus points for a hospital ship, triple if it was a neutral hospital ship.

bondoman wrote:

I cannot put a label to the funnel markings, but the tonnage suggests a mail steamer, such as was owned by the railroad companies. She probably had about 300 passengers, an example would be HMS City of Benares which was sunk in September 1940 by U-48. Went down after about 30 minutes, took 250 lives including 70 British kids being evacuated from the Blitz, which put the kabosh to the whole Child Overseas Reception Board.

whatever....

if it's agame, go on, I can't follow

No, Manny...I think that you were covered by a radio message.

Sailed many a mile in SHII both alone and in multiplay. I've been known to be at the fourm posted above.