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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 16, 2009 7:40 AM
Depending on the scale you are working with, and the effect you want, you don't really have to go with the "hot" acrylic mediums that are translucent...I've seen really nice water made from plaster, celleclay and even clay...many ship dios use celluclay for their water...it is much more forgiving and gives you time to add textures, waves, ripples into it rather easily...once dry, you can paint it to look like all kinds of water, even adding white-caps to the waves...then add a few coats of clear and you have deep water...
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Posted by wing_nut on Thursday, July 16, 2009 6:22 AM
Thanks for the info and advice guys.

Marc  

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Posted by qmiester on Thursday, July 16, 2009 6:17 AM
As strange as it seems one of the better places to learn about scale "water" is from model railroaders.  You might take a look over on the Model Railroader forums for some ideas.
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Posted by EdGrune on Wednesday, July 15, 2009 12:14 PM

Without going into Tracy's links deeply,  proceed with caution if you are intending to use any of the clear epoxy resins to make your water.   Many of them generate sufficient heat to warp a model if mixed and poured too thickly.   Go slow,  while 1/8 may be too thin - 1/4 may be disasterous.  Mix and pour in layers.  Color darkly in the bottom layers and make them progressively more transparent in succeding layers.  Experiment first before committing your model to an irretrieveable process.

Also, as the resin has a tendency to shrink as it hardens,  bases made with the material tend to exhibit the physically impossible trait of showing water climbing up a vertical surface.  Are you okay with that?   Experiment first.

Some surface ripples may be added using a putty knife/artists pallete knife as the top-most layer approaches hardening.    Some model railroaders who have used the stuff have blown on the surface with a heat gun (i.e. a heavy duty hair dryer) to make wind rows as the top layer hardens.   The heat gun may be problematical with your model imbedded in the plastic.   Did I mention to experiment first?

The recommendations for artists acrylic paints,  thinned with clear acrylic gloss varnishes, and topped with a shiny coat of Future floor polish is perhaps the best and most forgiving method to use

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Posted by wing_nut on Wednesday, July 15, 2009 10:51 AM
Tracy thanks... great set of links

Marc  

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Posted by Tracy White on Wednesday, July 15, 2009 10:33 AM
Try here; while most are for smaller scales than you're working on the techniques can be readily adapted unless you're going for a purely clear type of look.

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Water, water everywhere, but not a drop to...
Posted by wing_nut on Wednesday, July 15, 2009 10:08 AM

I asked for help from the the dio-dudes and got the suggestion to try the ship-dudes, and I thought, "Ships... water... duh!"

I have a built float plane, a piece of drift wood, a bottle of Realistic Water and an idea.  Sadly that's kind of where it all comes to a grinding halt.

Is there "how-to" out there in dio world that has a step by step? 

The bottle say to layer it 1/8" at a time.  Can that be done thicker to save time?  Does the "water" get tinted or is the color replicated by painting the base darker out from the shore for the idea of depth?  My big question is how do you get some texture on the surface so it does not look like a sheet of glass?

Marc  

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