SEARCH FINESCALE.COM

Enter keywords or a search phrase below:

Follow-up on RofG Eastwind and USCG Models in General

1628 views
6 replies
1 rating 2 rating 3 rating 4 rating 5 rating
  • Member since
    March 2003
  • From: Warrington PA
Follow-up on RofG Eastwind and USCG Models in General
Posted by oceano75 on Saturday, September 12, 2009 10:43 PM

I just joined this forum and this is my first post.  You struck a nerve with me - Coast Guard modeling - and I just wanted to add my two cents.  I am a 1975 graduate of the Coast Guard Academy and have time underway making way in USCGCs Eagle, Cowslip, Duane, Alert, Dallas, Evergreen, and NorthwindDuane is a sister ship of Taney/Campbell.  Northwind is a sister of Eastwind and a half-sister of Burton Island.  All of the information here is from the Coast Guard Historian's website (http://www.uscg.mil/ click on "About Us" click on "History" click on "Assets", click on Cutters & Craft - there is a link to a list of every vessel that ever sailed in Coast Guard service).

All 7 327' Secretary-class cutters were commissioned in 1936 with seaplanes and aircraft handling tackle.  The aircraft and tackle were removed in 1941 during a weapons refit.  Alexander Hamilton was sunk in the North Atlantic Campaign off Greenland.  Taney was the only 327 fitted with 4 enclosed 5"/38 cal guns.  The others mounted 3 open 5"/51s.  As mentioned, all 6 remaining cutters served as as amphibious command ships in 1945.  Taney was the last survivor of Pearl Harbor and the last of the 327s in service.  She was decommissioned on 7 December 1986.

The CG began building 4 Wind-class breakers in 1943; Northwind, Southwind, Eastwind, and Westwind.  At the same time, the Navy began building 2; Burton Island and Edisto.  The CG boats had twin 5"/38s, the Navy boats had single mounts.  Eastwind was commissioned first in 1944 and served as flagship of the Greenland patrol for the rest of the war.  Southwind came next and served briefly with the CG before going to Russia.  Northwind and Southwind went directly to Russia.  The CG commissioned another Wind in 1945 named Northwind.  In the shell game that went on from 1946 to 1966 all 7 Wind-class ships came under Coast Guard control and 2 of them changed names.  I have one documented picture of a Wind with both a helo and a seaplane on her.  The last Wind, the second Northwind, was decommissioned in 1989.

As for models,  I am in the process of building a website to house my research into every major cutter and aircraft to serve with the Coast Guard.  This is driven by my desire (obsession?) to build as many of them as I can.  My son (USCGA class of 2010 EE/Computer major) is going to help me over his Thanksgiving leave.  I hope to have it up by Christmas if anyone is interested.  In the meantime...

It has been noted that Revell has/had Taney/Campbell and Eastwind/Burton Island.   Both build out of the box as mid-1950s fits.  As mentioned, GMM has an excellent PE set for them.  The set runs about $60 but does both cutters.  The FSM article alluded to was in the October 2003 issue.  The author built the kit in the out of the box 50s fit but used the GMM set and new fittings from H&R Fittings.  Revell had a nice 1/257 Eagle kit.  An FSM article from October 2001 discussed dressing up that kit.  Amai also had a 1/250 Eagle kit.   Currently, Iron Shipwright has done a decent job of cataloging 1/350 resin CG subjects.  His current catalog has 4-084 USCGC Campbell (a 327 though the box art shows Taney with her 4 5"/38s), 4-130 USCGC Modoc (a 1936 era 240), 4-126 US Yard Set which includes USCGC Beech (a 1928 buoy tender), 4-148 ATA (which equates to a CGC Modoc of post-war service), 4-059 USS Apache (which equates to a CG 205 - anyone familiar with the book/movie Perfect Storm will remember CGC Tamaroa, a 205), 4-121 USS Mackinac (which equates to a CG 311), 4-187 USCGC Cedar (a 1917 buoy tender), and 4-179 USCGC Hamilton (a modern 378).  He also has OOP kits of USCGC Comanche (a 1930s 165) and a 180' buoy tender.  Not a bad lineup overall.  JAG offers a 378 and a 270 in 1/700 resin.  Loose Cannon has a resin Wind in 1/700 WWII fit.  I have seen this kit done up in waterline in an icefield.  It looked good and not really like a tug boat.  (beauty is in the eye...)  Minicraft has a 1/350 Eagle.  Lindberg just reissued the 1/87 95' WPB.  This builds out of the box as an A-class boat but can be easily converted to a later C.  Lindberg has also reissued their Lightship.  Glencoe has a 36' motor lifeboat.  There are several big scale RC type hulls available if you can scratchbuild the superstructures.  So CG subjects are available if you know what you are looking for.  And this does not even include Army and Navy ships manned by CG crews in WWII.   All of these will be highlighted in my website.

I have built 2 of the IS 327s as Taney; one OTB in her 1941 fit and one backdated to her 1936 commissioning fit, complete with seaplane.  Nice kits!  I have the IS Comanche done up as USCGC Escanaba.  I have the Lindberg 95 and Lightship completed.  If I can figure out how to post pics here, I will post them.  As for my stash... I have four each of the Revell 327s and Winds to do in each of their major weapons fits (I have to do the one with both helo and seaplane).  I have a second 95 to build as a C and a third to put into a diorama picking up a tow in heavy weather.  I have the Minicraft Eagle.  I have a second 36-footer that will find its way into a diorama.

I guess this was a little more than two cents.  Hope it was worth reading.  Looking forward to more discussions/learning exeriences.

  • Member since
    March 2007
  • From: Carmel, CA
Posted by bondoman on Saturday, September 12, 2009 10:54 PM

Actually Oceano it's priceless.

Welcome aboard.

Thank you and yours for your service.

I'm looking forward to checking out your database. My daughter graduated High School this year and one of her classmates was commissioned to New London. That young lady follows her brother, who was accepted three years ago.

I flew to Europe last fall and my seat companion was a CG officer who's a White House Chef. He also had a part in "Guardian". And "Perfect Storm" that's a hairaising story. I met Linda Greenlaw and spent a few minutes at a book signing in Chatham talking to her. She asked me if I knew the actress who had been cast to play her, as the movie hadn't come out yet; (Mary Mastrantonio) and I do but what could I say? MEM lives on the Vineyard but there the similarities end. I've never met her, just seen her, but Linda is, well, a true Maine lobsterman. Nice woman, and charming.

Don't forget this one:

http://www.greatmodels.com/~smartcart/cgi/display.cgi?item_num=FON8001

Anyhow, I look forward to getting to know you and learning more about the USCG. Your experience on Eagle will bring them running, I'll warn you.

Bill

  • Member since
    January 2005
Posted by John @ WEM on Sunday, September 13, 2009 7:48 AM

Just a note to let you know that we have the Lake-class cutters available in 1/700 (in both USCG form and in RN form as the entire class was transferred under Lend-Lease and became Banff-class escort sloops in the RN), and will be releasing a 1/350 version shortly.

Cheers,

John Snyder, White Ensign Models, http://WhiteEnsignModels.com

  • Member since
    March 2003
  • From: Warrington PA
Posted by oceano75 on Sunday, September 13, 2009 2:34 PM

Hi Bill,

Thanks for the welcome. 

I sailed twice in Eagle; once during 4th class summer as required of all "Swabs" and once during 2nd class summer when I was training the new incoming class.  The second was a far better experience.

I never knew the CG had a cook in the White House!  Ya learn somethin' new ev'ry day!

I have the LCVP in there together with a Large Slow Target (LST), a Lousy Civilian Idea (LCI), and an AKA.  Thanks for the input!

You mentioned your daughter's classmate is in the incoming CGA class of 2013 and follows her brother by 3 years.  That would put her brother in the class of 2010.  That is my son's class.  I don't know how well your daughter knows her classmate or is still in touch with her, but it would be interesting to see if her brother knows my son.  My son is Brendan Williams.  Let me know what his name is and we'll see if they do know each other. 

Later!

Frank 

 

 

  • Member since
    March 2003
  • From: Warrington PA
Posted by oceano75 on Sunday, September 13, 2009 2:53 PM

Hi John,

I apologize for the omission and thak you for the memory jog.  I have your 1/350 HMS Landguard/CGC Shoshone (which I will pick up) in my database, but I missed your 1/700 offering.  I will include it now.

 I like your "Token Yank" byline on Hyperlink.

Thanks!

Frank

  • Member since
    February 2007
  • From: S.E. Michigan
Posted by 2/20 Bluemax on Thursday, September 17, 2009 8:24 PM

oceano75,

Glad you posted. I just purchased Revell's re-release of the USS Burton Island which I'm going to bash as the USS Atka (ex-USCG Southwind) for a friend of mine who was stationed on her in the mid 50's. Gold Medal Models PE set and some work should turn out a reasonable representation of the Atka.

The USCG Southwind was returned to the US, from Russia, after WWII and in October, 1950, was commissioned by the US Navy as the USS Atka (AGB-3).She spent most of her life, as a navy ship, involved with scientific expeditions to Antartica.

I paid about $30 for the model at my LHS.

Jim

  • Member since
    March 2003
  • From: Warrington PA
Posted by oceano75 on Friday, September 18, 2009 9:40 AM

Hi Jim,

Yeah - that was part of the shell game that went on from 46 to 66.  Breakers were coming and going and changing names.  I am sure you have seen it, but here is a good site that shows the boat on both Navy and CG form: http://www.navsource.org/archives/09/08/0803.htm.  Note she has a single 5"/38 in Navy sevice and twin in CG service.

Good luck and post pics when you're finished!

Frank 

 

 

 

JOIN OUR COMMUNITY!

Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account.

SEARCH FORUMS
FREE NEWSLETTER
By signing up you may also receive reader surveys and occasional special offers. We do not sell, rent or trade our email lists. View our Privacy Policy.