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Furled sails. What to do?
Posted by Juan on Saturday, September 19, 2009 6:58 AM

Hi:

This is my first post in this wonderful site, and I need the advice of the experts.

I am working in the Cutty Sark, Revell from 1968, scale could be 1/140 to 1/150, the preformed sails that comes with the kit are in bad conditions and beside that I don't like this tipe of sails, looks unreal in a ship on a pedestal. I prefer to display the ship with furled salis.

Whar shall I use for the sails, paper, fabric?

Why the manufacturer don't give the modeler the option?

Thanks for reading my post. (Sorry for my English, is my second language)

Juan

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  • From: Groton, CT
Posted by warshipguy on Saturday, September 19, 2009 7:44 AM

Juan,

Welcome to the Forum! We can be a strange breed but we mean well!

Anyway, one method that I like is to roll tissue paper cut to size and shape (I use a light tan color), tie it off in the appropriate places, pull it to shape, then brush it with a water and white glue mixture and allow it to dry. I use water color paints to add texture and shadowing as appropriate.  This method works well for me.

I am sure that others will offer different techniques that work equally well.

Good luck!

Bill Morrison

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    March 2004
  • From: Spartanburg, SC
Posted by subfixer on Saturday, September 19, 2009 7:49 AM

A quick utilization of the search feature below got this:

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Our good Professor Tilley has some solid advice on this subject.

And

I'm from the government and I'm here to help.

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Posted by Dreadnought52 on Saturday, September 19, 2009 10:03 AM
 Juan wrote:

Hi:

This is my first post in this wonderful site, and I need the advice of the experts.

I am working in the Cutty Sark, Revell from 1968, scale could be 1/140 to 1/150, the preformed sails that comes with the kit are in bad conditions and beside that I don't like this tipe of sails, looks unreal in a ship on a pedestal. I prefer to display the ship with furled salis.

Whar shall I use for the sails, paper, fabric?

Why the manufacturer don't give the modeler the option?

Thanks for reading my post. (Sorry for my English, is my second language)

Juan



I have used the paper that comes with a new shirt to make tarps and sails in the past. It is finer than standard tissue, easier to cut to shape, but very thin and amenable to shaping with the various types of diluted white glue. You might be able to get some from the better men's stores in your town. Here in the US I get mine from Brooks Brothers or Jos. Banks. WS
  • Member since
    January 2009
  • From: Central CA
Posted by Division 6 on Saturday, September 19, 2009 10:22 AM

Sounds like tissue wrapping paper.

You should be able to find it and any store that sells wrapping paper.

As and example of what I am talking about look HERE

 

Eric... 

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Posted by Juan on Saturday, September 19, 2009 3:14 PM

Thank you very much for your help, now I have an idea. Now I now from where to begin.

The post from the Profesor Tilley is incredible. I am going to work on your advice and keep you posted.

again thanks.

 

Juan

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    September 2005
  • From: Groton, CT
Posted by warshipguy on Saturday, September 19, 2009 5:00 PM

Juan,

It's our collective pleasure! Please stay with us.

Bill Morrison

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  • From: Greenville, NC
Posted by jtilley on Saturday, September 19, 2009 8:36 PM

Juan - Welcome to the Forum!  I think you'll find a great deal of helpful and interesting stuff here.  The people who contribute regularly are a slightly strange assortment of characters, but most of us are relatively harmless.

Please don't apologize for your English.  You'll quickly discover that perfection of grammar and spelling are not requirements for participation in this Forum.  Frankly, if the papers I get from the students in my freshman-level U.S. history courses were written as well as your first two posts, I'd be a happy man. 

I hope that thread in which we discussed techniques for making furled sails will be of use.  I'll also pass on a suggestion I always offer to people who are modeling the Cutty Sark.  One of the very best, and most accessible, sources of information about her is the set of plans drawn by George Campbell.  (He was the naval architect in charge of the last big restoration she underwent, back in the late 1950s.  He was also a distinguished ship modeler.)  Those three sheets of paper show just about every conceivable detail of the ship.  They in fact contain more information than you're likely to need for a model on the scale of that Revell kit, but if you have any interest at all in how the ship was built, this is a great place to learn.  The plans are available from the ship's gift shop:  http://www.cuttysark.org.uk/index.cfm?fa=contentShop.productDetails&productId=40&startrow=1&directoryId=6

Even with the shipping and currency conversion charges included, at the current exchange rate the price shouldn't be much more than $20.00 (in the U.S.).  These drawings constitute one of the biggest bargains in ship modeling.  Highly recommended.

Good luck.  It's a great hobby.

Youth, talent, hard work, and enthusiasm are no match for old age and treachery.

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Posted by Juan on Sunday, September 20, 2009 10:56 AM

Profesor Tilley:

Thank for your words about my English, and for your welcome, is an honor for me that you answer my post.

 I am working in my furled sails on my Cutty Sark, I have not much experience but still I noted thar many things are not on scale. but I like the Kit an I am enjoying it. Being an amateur I am trying to do my best.

Again thank for your words.

Juan

 

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    July 2009
  • From: Jacksonville, Florida
Posted by Vagabond_Astronomer on Sunday, September 20, 2009 8:06 PM

Didn't get a chance to jump into this topic until now; yes, definitely use the tissue. Just one suggestion; make the sails a little undersize. Remember, the material is not to scale thickness so it won't furl to scale either. I normally shape mine prior to attaching them. Great responses all.

Rob

"I have loved the stars too dearly to be fearful of the night..."
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Posted by woodburner on Monday, September 21, 2009 12:07 AM

Silkspan method works best

 

 

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Posted by Juan on Sunday, October 4, 2009 7:05 PM

Friends:

I already finish my Cutty Sark, by Revell, 1968, (scale unknown) It was a pleasure the kit is wonderful, but they are some parts that they do not fits.

Is good and your advice about the furled sails worked perfectly. Because is a small scale I used the paper tissue, colored with tea, after that applied white glue (and water), and the most important thing, work with the sail when it is WET, so it when dry looks like real.

I want to thanks Professor Tilley and all the great members of the forum for the advice, now I am going to show the ship, please if you can, write something about, because I am still an amateur an need your advice.

Thanks:

 Juan

 

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  • From: Spartanburg, SC
Posted by subfixer on Sunday, October 4, 2009 7:22 PM
    Very fine job, Juan. The furled sails are right on the money!

I'm from the government and I'm here to help.

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Posted by Juan on Monday, October 5, 2009 6:38 PM
Thank you sir.
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  • From: Spartanburg, SC
Posted by subfixer on Monday, October 5, 2009 11:40 PM
De nada.

I'm from the government and I'm here to help.

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