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Posted by PTConsultingNHR on Wednesday, January 20, 2010 6:34 PM

All,

Hello, I've got a request that I'd like to make of you wonderful guys and I hope that one of you can help me ...

I'm in need of something ... two 1:76 quad-50 caliber mounts, like you see in the bed of a half-track (or towed behind it) ...

Can any of you guys help me?

Garth

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Posted by sharkbait on Thursday, January 21, 2010 5:18 AM

  Is this what you are looking for - can't help - from the Pegasus Bridge Museum in Normandy - they were not helpfull when I tried to load it into my van!

  I have been told that the Quad 50 had too slow a traverse and elevation rate to be usefull as anti- aircraft can anyone confirm that?

 

 

 

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Posted by SuppressionFire on Thursday, January 21, 2010 5:43 AM

'Happyness is a belt fed weapon...enlightment is .50 cal...out of body experience would be four of them!'

Dam that would be fun to shoot with a 10 000$ ammo budget, say for 2 minutes of maddnessCowboy

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Posted by Milairjunkie on Thursday, January 21, 2010 6:31 AM

Sorry, I cant help with your query. but with I'm with SupressionFire on this one, except swap the 50s (nice as they are) for Miniguns & up the budget by several factors - I couldnt find a quad mini, but these give you the idea;

In fact bugger the quad Minigun & lets get a Quad Avenger (GAU-8/A), with a couple of H&K GMG grenade launchers bolted on for good measure, mount it all on an armoured Mercedes Actros & raid Wall Street to keep it in ammo for a few minutes of enjoyment.

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Posted by Phil_H on Thursday, January 21, 2010 6:50 AM

Look for the Revell (ex-Matchbox) 1/76  M16 half-track. This has the quad .50 mount. I haven't seen it in the flesh though, so I can't comment about accuracy/quality. 

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Posted by PTConsultingNHR on Thursday, January 21, 2010 9:02 AM

That's the one, yes ........

Maybe I can have the guy scratchbuild it.

Thank you people.

Garth

 

 

 

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Posted by SuppressionFire on Thursday, January 21, 2010 6:43 PM

Milairjunky 'Sorry, I cant help with your query. but with I'm with SupressionFire on this one, except swap the 50s (nice as they are) for Miniguns & up the budget by several factors - I couldnt find a quad mini, but these give you the idea;'

Heh I can compromise and roll with it! Besides 7.62 ammo is easier on the volume expences, just not the collateral damages! Tri mounted mini guns is maybe too much of a good thing? I still think Browning had the right formula as time, service and honors proven with the .50 BMG

Super Angry~.50 BMG happy face super fun time~

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Posted by PTConsultingNHR on Friday, January 22, 2010 4:45 PM

Just to let you guys know ...

The reason why I was looking for those mount was that I've got a Lindberg USAF 95 foot Crash-boat - from the 1950s - so I don't think the mini-guns you speak of would be historically accurate - (no, not the Coast Guard Patrol Boat) kit and the real boat(s) (there were only two built) had two of the quad-50 mounts fore and aft, two single .50 guns in the turrets abaft the cockpit ...

Garth

 

 

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Posted by Milairjunkie on Friday, January 22, 2010 5:32 PM

Garth - I realise that, I was just being childish & having a laugh.

Supressionfire - I see what you are saying re. the 50s. Both 50s & Mini's are in a class of their own, although you should have a look at the H&K GMG, 40mm at 340RPM, its something else;

 

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Posted by PTConsultingNHR on Saturday, January 23, 2010 5:16 PM

Ooooooooooooooooooooooooooh.  OK.  I didn't realize that.  I apologize.

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Posted by SuppressionFire on Sunday, January 24, 2010 7:05 AM

Milairjunkie Yes the designers and engineers at Heckler & Koch produce fine weapon systems. I seen the belt fed gernade launcher on 'Future Weapons' with Mac. If it went to hell in a hand basket I would desire a HK 416. Chambered in my favorate carterage .243 Winchester. Becides long accurate shots are for bolt action rifles with heavy grained bullets. That being said the Cheyetec .400 weapon system with data computer would be a fun Gopher gunCowboy

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Posted by Senior Chief (ret) on Sunday, January 24, 2010 4:34 PM

I've done some research on these two prototypes as well, visiting the National Archives, Detroit Historical Society, and Mariner's Museum in Newport News, VA.  The documents and photos I've seen show the M45 quad mounts fore and aft, however I have not found any evidence that weapons were mounted in the intended turrets abaft the bridge.

Do you have photgraphs showing M2 MGs in these turrets?  Please share if you do.

Thanks,

R/

Matt

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President John F. Kennedy, 1 August 1963, in Bancroft Hall at the U. S. Naval Academy.

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Posted by PTConsultingNHR on Monday, January 25, 2010 9:18 AM

Hello Matt,

Someone who I know and trust once told me that.  I do not know where he got his information though.  He strengthened his case by stating that when the other classes of crashboats were taken over by the USAF from the USA and USN, that they were armed with weapons from the USAF own inventory. 

Matt, please.  Please email me offsite at PTConsultingNHR@aol.com as I would like to discuss this further, if you wouldn't mind sir.

Garth

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Posted by Senior Chief (ret) on Sunday, January 31, 2010 12:11 PM

The 63'-footers that were built around the same time ('51-'54) were armed when put into service.  The two 94-footers were prototypes, one built by Stephens Brothers shipyard (Stockton, CA) and the other by Detroit Basin shipyard (Detroit, MI).  They were armed with M45 quad .50 cal mounts fore and aft for their trials.  The prototypes went through testing on their respective coasts, however there were issues with their engineering plant.  During this time the helicopter was introduced in the SAR role as well and proved more effective than crash boats.  The 94' design was not adopted for production and the two prototypes were transferred to the Navy (around 1956 if I recall correctly) where they were used as small craft, not crash boats.  I believe that the Navy disposed of them shortly there after.  One was purchased and turned into a yacht.

I grew up in the Detroit area and two years ago was there visiting family and managed to spend some time at the Detroit Historical Society archives going through their Detroit Basin collection. There were ten boxes of various documents, drawings, and business records from Fisher Boat Works and Detroit Basin shipyards and I spent three days sorting, cataloging, and entering the collection into the society's collection   database. The collection contains some information regarding the 94-footer R-21A-1251, including the boat's equipment allowance and check list, operator's manual, a small amount of correspondence, and some minor drawings of boat components.
 
These prototypes were designed by John Hacker and the Mariner's Museum in Newport News houses the John Hacker Collection, including photographs and a number of drawings for the 94-footer.  The drawings are design drawings, though, not production drawings, and there are some notable differences between the drawings in the collection and the photographic evidence of the prototypes as constructed.

The National Archives II in College Park, MD has several photographs of R-21A-1251during trials.

Matt

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Posted by stikpusher on Sunday, January 31, 2010 2:06 PM

sharkbait

   I have been told that the Quad 50 had too slow a traverse and elevation rate to be usefull as anti- aircraft can anyone confirm that?

I believe they became so with the advent of jet aircraft at the end of WWII. IIRC, quad .50s are what shot down George Preddy and killed him a During the Ardennes fighting in a "friendly fire" incident.

 

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Posted by oceano75 on Tuesday, February 2, 2010 6:40 AM

The Revell M16 is listed in the current Squadron montly sale catalog for $9.45.  If you don't get the catalog just call Squadron at 877-414-0434

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