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  • Member since
    October 2007
  • From: Willow Oaks Compound / Model Bunker
Posted by razorboy on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 9:54 AM

Thanks again Will, this site is much better.  I have already found 10 nice profile pics of her sisters built in 1919, all with same hull dimensions and superstructures.  Thanks again man, a real gold mine of info.!

Dave

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    May 2008
  • From: UK
Posted by Billyboy on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 9:24 AM

Dave,

sorry- I tried to update my last post earlier but it crashed. I meant to add that it appears the corpus of the drawings of the Great Lakes Engineering Co'  are kept at this repository. http://www.bgsu.edu/colleges/library/cac/page39984.html

It appears that they are uncatalogued, but if it is like any UK research institute, if you can present them with the build date and more crucially the yard number, it wouldn't take much to identify drawings. The website seems to imply they have been microfilmed- if only that was the case over here!!

Will

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  • From: Willow Oaks Compound / Model Bunker
Posted by razorboy on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 8:58 AM

Billyboy, what can I say?  OUTSTANDING link Sir!  I have just sent the archivist there an email requesting copies of the plans.

Thanks man, I really appreciate the help.

Dave

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    May 2008
  • From: UK
Posted by Billyboy on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 5:09 AM

any use?

http://rmc.library.cornell.edu/ead/htmldocs/KCL05191+.html

http://www.archive.org/stream/audelsshipfitte00newsgoog#page/n0/mode/1up

The Michigan State University manuscripts department (or whatever they're usually called in the US) appears to hold the corpus of Engineering drawings of the Great Lakes Engineering Company- so it may be worth having a word with them.

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  • From: Willow Oaks Compound / Model Bunker
Posted by razorboy on Tuesday, February 9, 2010 3:11 PM

Thanks Will, Been there but with no luck.  I think I'll make my own plans from the photo I have at this point.

Thanks again,

Dave

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    May 2008
  • From: UK
Posted by Billyboy on Tuesday, February 9, 2010 2:16 PM

Hi,

 

I know next to nothing about US coastal steamers, but when trying these sort of things in the UK I start by making a list of the following info i) who built here, ii) all her previous names and owners.

By so doing you can then look in to the possibility of plans surviving in an archive from the builders, or further pictures surviving of her under different names/ owners. Assuming plans don't exist know who built her is useful as you might be able to identify the 'key' features of this builder (in this case a Great Lakes builder http://www.shipbuildinghistory.com/history/shipyards/2large/inactive/greatlakes.htm ) and create some plausible plans of your own! The master of miniature ship modelling Jim Baumann does this sort of thing a lot by the looks of things, here's an example of a turret ship. http://www.modelshipgallery.com/gallery/users/jim-baumann/jb-index.html

Will

 

Will

  • Member since
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  • From: Willow Oaks Compound / Model Bunker
Steam Merchant reference material needed
Posted by razorboy on Tuesday, February 9, 2010 11:31 AM

Hello All,
I am new to this forum and must jump right in with a plea for help in locating some information.  I am a modeller and have planned a shadowbox diorama depicting the sinking of the David H. Atwater by U-552 off of the coast of Virginia in April, 1942.  As I am sure most of you know, the Atwater was hit by over 50 of the 90 88mm deck gun shells fired at her before she sunk in 70 feet of water, settling on her port side.  All but 3 crew were lost and only 3 dead recovered.
I have a very nice recreation of Topp's boat available in 1/350 scale but cannot find but one picture of the Atwater and here lies the problem.  I need a profile line drawing, sketch or photo in order to "Scratch Build" this Steam Merchant.  Here is the only picture I have found:

I know that the U-Boat crews would identify ships by their silouettes listed in "Registry Books" either issued by Insurance Companies or other sources.  I was wondering if this was true, where might I find access to one in order to gain a better "Profile" picture of this ship?

Your help is greatly appreciated,
Dave "razorboy" Creel

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