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Out of the bottle Hull Red?

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  • From: Lacombe, LA.
Out of the bottle Hull Red?
Posted by Big Jake on Wednesday, May 26, 2010 12:04 PM

Any suggestions for a Hull Red?  I'm doing Trumpeter's Seawolf, not a bad kit just needs a ton of filling and sanding. Painting instruc. leave much to be desired.  Read a lot of on-line reviews, know the pitfalls and have fixed the 1/16" gap in the lower hull length - WOW so much for quality control.  strip styrene fills that nicly.

Anybody make a ready to use hull red?  I like Floquil Caboose red, but am a little unsure.

Thanks

Jake

 

 

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Posted by Grem56 on Wednesday, May 26, 2010 12:58 PM

Lifecolor acrylic camouflage series UA 606 Schiffsbodenfarbe Rot 5. Used this on most of my ship builds as it looks just like the good old lead based anti fouling that used to be used the ships I sailed on. It might be a bit pale for US vessels though, maybe Ed Grune can throw in some advice on that point.

cheers, Julian

 

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Posted by smeagol the vile on Wednesday, May 26, 2010 1:53 PM

I know the Tamiya hull red is really close to a brown, I used it for the main color on this kit.

 

 

 

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Posted by caramonraistlin on Wednesday, May 26, 2010 1:59 PM

Greetings:

I've used Tamiya's hull red up until recently. I then switched to Krylon's ruddy brown primer in a spray can which seems to work out much better and is very reasonably priced at around $2. I use this exclusively now.

 

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Posted by CG Bob on Wednesday, May 26, 2010 2:52 PM

I've had good results with the following colors: Testors Model Master or Acryl Rust; Floquil Polly Scale Oxide Red; and Polly Scale Sepcial Oxide Red.

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Posted by Big Jake on Wednesday, May 26, 2010 4:00 PM

Thanks for the quick replys, I also thought Floquil Tuscan Red looked nice, BUT I believe it's too dark,  Another review of the model showed it to be almost a bright red, thats why I was thinking of Caboose Red.

 

 

 

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Posted by Big Jake on Wednesday, May 26, 2010 4:18 PM

I uploaded some pictures of another model showing the hull red they used. link here, let me know about the red color.

http://community.webshots.com/album/577788841WwTwBX

 

 

 

 

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Posted by tankerbuilder on Wednesday, May 26, 2010 4:46 PM

HI,JAKE: Hey,you have a good question there. I have used TESTORS "MODELMASTER" rust on all my builds.My customers like it ,always asking How did you get the bottom color so close to real??? You can tone it to many shades so you can have old looking bottom paint or shipyard new.     TANKERBUILDER

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Thursday, May 27, 2010 9:26 AM

I generally use Testors MM British Crimson.  For some civil ships I use a red oxide primer.  I use this instead of the nomal gray primer I use, then mask off the bottom and leave it in the red oxide color as a finish color.  In fact, some civil ships have the whole hull in red oxide.  But, all military stuff that have a red below waterline I use the British Crimson.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by EdGrune on Thursday, May 27, 2010 9:37 AM

To throw another option your way,  modern US submarines no longer operate with red bottoms.   They're now black over black.

MM Engine Gray,  Interior Black, and/or Floquil Grimy Black are good options.  Do the bow dome and sonar WAA arrays in a darker black for some tonal difference

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Posted by Big Jake on Thursday, May 27, 2010 9:59 PM

Ed,

I know the ships now have an all black appearance, but it just does not look as sharp as the two tone.  The bow of the Seawolf class is ALL fiberglass and when painted gives a duller look, sam epaint just a different finish. 

Don,

 I'll look up the MM Crimson Red to see whay she might look like.

Thanks

Jake

 

 

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Posted by amphib on Friday, May 28, 2010 6:29 AM

Jake

I think that Rustoleum red primer in spray cans at your local hardware store is pretty close.

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Friday, May 28, 2010 8:51 AM

amphib

Jake

I think that Rustoleum red primer in spray cans at your local hardware store is pretty close.

The Rustoleum red primer is a red oxide primer, right on for many civil ships.  It is close but not a perfect match for modern military ships.

However, I have stopped using the Rustoleum primer, as I find it eats into and softens the plastic a bit. It then takes forever to completely dry.  It is okay when used over other primer, but I have stopped using it directly on plastic. It is fine on wood models, however.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by JMart on Tuesday, June 1, 2010 8:11 AM

I use MM enamels. Here are a couple of subs I did, playing with different red/brown mixtures:

Pic of a JSDF modern sub surfacing (Yushio); you can see the red:

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Big Jake on Friday, June 4, 2010 11:41 PM

Don,

I was able to stop by my LHS and get the Testors "British Crimson", you're right it's dead on,

Thanks   Jake

 

 

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