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bondoman Between shipcamo and steelnavy, it's pretty hard to go too far wrong.
Between shipcamo and steelnavy, it's pretty hard to go too far wrong.
I would also add John,Tracy, Ed, Garth, Chris, Dr Tilley and some others. Great resources in the ship forum. I like the fact that most "expert" posters support their positions with facts, links, documents. Cheers all
Kind of like when I was requested to prepare a proposal for designing a new National Science Museum in Shanghai... Oh and include a schematic design with the proposal, please.
We too have offered color/paint help to Trumpeter, with the same result. In fact, when we supplied them with our master pattern for the 1/350 Repulse, it was with the understanding that they would reference our Colourcoats in the kit's instructions. You can see how that came out....
Cheers,
John Snyder, White Ensign Models, http://WhiteEnsignModels.com
I think translation may be part of it, knowledge is another. I've consulted with Dragon on some of their USN kits and they will send copies of their instructions and paint guide for review.... we can and have pointed out problems in the past, and they are one of the few manufacturers to actually use the official US Navy names and designations on their paint instructions. If Trumpeter doesn't have access to a similar knowledgeable person or group then they're just relying upon someone to do research on the internet, and there is a lot of bad info out there.
For what it's worth I did send an offer to help Trumpeter through a couple of different sources years ago... never heard back.
Tracy White Researcher@Large
Trumpeter's translating has been quite hilarious at times. If you ever get the chance to read the side of the box on the KV series tank kits you will see how bad it can be.
F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!
U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!
N is for NO SURVIVORS...
- Plankton
LSM
I wonder how much of that has to do with translating difficulties, as they are a Chinese company?
I haven't seen a Trumpeter paint guide yet that was correct.
Don't follow Trumpeter either. I've built two and both painting guides were incorrect in the extreme.
Photographic evidence makes it pretty clear that Lex was in Measure 21 at the time of her loss.
There is a lot of confusion about Measure 11. The only difference between Measure 11 and 21 is the color of the paint, but since 5-S was discontinued about the same time as the manual saying to use it was distributed, the Navy essentially sent out paperwork to the effect of "use Measure 11, substituting 5-N Navy Blue for 5-S Sea Blue." The closest example I have to this that I can post right now is this document from November of 1941. So essentially you want to paint your Lexington in Measure 21, even though it wasn't officially released to the fleet until June of 1942, after she was sunk. I have seen documentation prior to that stating that it will be called MEasure 21, but I don't have the time right now to go look to give you the date.
Thanks for the excellent link! It looks like Lex's last paint job was, most likely, MS 11which was a blue-grey mix, albeit a little darker shade than most pictures show according to the Navy's 5-S paint chip.
Looks like she may have worn a few schemes for her short life in 1942. Look here on her 1942 schemes.
http://www.shipcamouflage.com/usn_cv.htm
Need some help: the instructions say to paint the upper hull and super struction blue-grey, however, other sources say that Lexington was painted Ms. 21, which is not blue-grey but a much darker navy-blue. Since I haven't come across any color pictures of Lexington in that era, I can't really decide what to paint this ship as black and white pictures aren't much help. Hoping that someone on here can add more input!
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