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Painting a Trafalgar-class SSN

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  • From: Weymouth, Dorset, UK
Posted by chris hall on Friday, July 2, 2010 9:08 AM

That's excellent, Ed. Pity I put an order in for some WEM stuff only yeterday!

I also found this:

http://bcliffe.com/subs/Trenchant.html

Which, assuming the guy's research is kosher, answers a lot of questions.

Cheers,

Chris.

 

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  • From: Mansfield, TX
Posted by EdGrune on Friday, July 2, 2010 7:45 AM

WEM offers a print of their HMS Trenchant painting instructions as a separate item.   See the listing in this directory

http://www.whiteensignmodels.com/acatalog/Online_Catalogue_Colour_Prints_18.html

I did a 1:700 scale Dragon Trafalgar class in this scheme.  I may have to run down the Airfix offering and replicate it larger

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  • From: Scotland
Posted by Milairjunkie on Friday, July 2, 2010 3:46 AM

bondoman

batty little boats  

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  • From: Carmel, CA
Posted by bondoman on Friday, July 2, 2010 3:01 AM

Indeed they can fly, you say?

But herring breath, the truth is, ...

If the RN states that their batty little boats sport Cyan, that;'s a pretty easy color to find.

Any good color copier worth it's salt has three bins of colored toner,; cyan, magenta and yellow. Plus black. Ergo whats called the CMYK coordinates.

Wixt gets us the color coordinates by which magazine, etc printers make all the othe colors in the world.

Here's a whole bunch of Cyan:

http://www.energystar.gov/

 

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Posted by chris hall on Friday, July 2, 2010 2:44 AM

Tell me about it, Bondo! But some of the blue vesions actually look quite a lot like the shallower bits of the Eastern Med does, when seen from above (in my case, inter-Greek-island puddle-jumpers) at an angle, on a bright summer day.

Pitipeds? No known flightless seabirds going by this name that I know of! Cool

Cheers,

Chris.

 

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  • From: Carmel, CA
Posted by bondoman on Friday, July 2, 2010 2:32 AM

words cannot describe the complex nature of what is Cyan

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyan

It is what it is.

The pitipeds know.

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  • From: Weymouth, Dorset, UK
Posted by chris hall on Friday, July 2, 2010 2:18 AM

Ed, that looks excellent.  I've got two Trafalgars ordered from Airfix.com, but I can see a need to waddle down to the LHS and get a third!

Trenchant's experimental scheme (which some sources have as cyan, not black, and blue) seems to be aimed at making her more difficult to see in the realtively shallow, clear, waters of the Mediterranian and the Gulf, and to break up the boat's outline, in the light of changing geopolitical priorities in the 1990s.  Here's a piccie:

http://www.btinternet.com/~warship/Feature/cam.htm

RLM65 looks like a starting point for the light blue.

Floquil paints aren't easy to find in the UK, but Humbrol do a Grimy Black in their railway acrylic range, albeit with a slightly satin finish. I wonder if that would work.

Cheers,

Chris.

 

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Posted by EdGrune on Thursday, July 1, 2010 4:08 PM

About 10 years ago HMS Trenchant was done up in an experimental blue and black scheme.   White Ensign featured the markings on their Trafalgar-class kit.      There is your unique departure from boring black. 

 

Pardon the image quality -- I grabbed the thumbnail off the WEM site.  Couldn't find a larger image on the quick.

Lately I've become a fan of Floquil Grimy Black (railroad color) for use on modern SSN/SSBN.  Its a bit more gray than NATO Black/Interior Black

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  • From: Weymouth, Dorset, UK
Painting a Trafalgar-class SSN
Posted by chris hall on Thursday, July 1, 2010 3:05 PM

Airfix have just released their promised 1/350 Trafalgar-class SSN (markings and parts for all boats). Assmebly promises to be issue-free, so my thoughts are turning to painting.

When fresh out of the yard, Royal Navy SSNs are semigloss black overall, except for the non-slip sections of the casing and sail, However, they weather rapidly, and lose tiles and look scruffy up close. However, I'm pretty sure that the correct finish in 1/350 would still be off-black (say tyre black or NATO Black), but that would look boring.

Any thoughts about about painting used SSNs? At the moment, I'm leaning towards base-coating the model in black, pre-shading it in medium grey vertical stripes, and then misting off-black to very nearly obscure the grey. In some lights, the areas where the tiles have come away appear brown, in others, the boat looks black with areas of dark grey, not unlike a Space Shuttle after re-entry.

USN SSN,s seem a lot cleaner, and less prone to weathering and losing tiles, or maybe the CoB has got the lads out with paint and rollers before publicity photos are taken?

Cheers,

Chris.

 

 

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