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Posted by rcweasel on Thursday, August 5, 2010 3:29 PM

The Investigator was part of one of more than 50 expeditions that set out to find Franklin between 1848-1852. Captain McClure was one of many who were as much or more interested in finding the elusive northwest passage. He left with 3 years provisions for his crew and another years worth for Franklin. It was the norm on arctic expeditions to go as far as open water would allow, then overwinter in the ice to continue again the next summer. The expedition of Investigator with McClure and Enterprise with McClintock was that they approached from the west over what was then Russian Alaska. The first year McClure went up the east side of what is now known to be Banks Island, naming the passage Prince of Wales Straight. He was stopped by ice coming down the straight. From the crows nest with a visibility of 20 miles he was able to see open water. He was within 60 miles of waters that had been explored from the east, and proved that there was a water route through the arctic. The credit today usually goes to one of Franklins crew who going overland saw another passage closer to the Canadian mainland.

The second summer he found favorable conditions going up the west side of Banks Island, turned the northern tip and headed east. This passage is now known as McClure Straight. With winter approaching again, he looked for secure anchorage and settled on what he named Mercy Bay. For the next two summers the ice pressing down from the north kept the Investigator from leaving. The crew was near starvation , when a relief party reached them from the east, and they left the ship.McClure wasn't the kindest of men and fought against any of the 10,000 Pound prize for discoring the northwest passage going to the men who rescued him.

The ship stayed on the ice for many years and was used by the Inuit as a source of copper and iron. Finally one summer when they returned, there was no sign of the ship. Until this year.

Bundin er båtleysir maøur - Bound is the boatless man

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Posted by CrashTestDummy on Thursday, August 5, 2010 1:23 PM

Billyboy

Best I can find is a sonar side-scan of the wreck. It is very obviously a pretty intact wreck, and easily identifiable from the side-scan as a mid 19th century merchantman.

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/07/29/wreckage-year-old-ship-canada/

 

Interesting discovery.

 

Billyboy,

Just to correct, not that it really means much, but I used to interpret such data, this is a 'side scan sonar' image.  It's a type of sonar imaging system that consists of a 'fish' that's kind of a torpedo shaped housing that's towed behind a ship to image the seafloor below it.  The sonar units are set on either side of the towed 'fish' so the image that's generated looks kind of like a street, with a line down the middle where the fish ran, and an image of the seafloor on either side of it propagating laterally outward from the centerline. 

http://www.abc.se/~pa/mar/sidescan.htm

In conducting offshore hazards and pipeline prelay surveys in the Gulf of Mexico, I've actually discovered a shipwreck.   It was really cool!  Too bad the scaling ticks aren't displayed on that image that's included in your post, one could determine so much more from the image.  Thanks for posting, though, it's fun to see those things every once in a while.

Gene Beaird,
Pearland, Texas

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Posted by subfixer on Thursday, August 5, 2010 6:42 AM

Thanks for the update, Anthony.

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Posted by crackers on Thursday, August 5, 2010 2:05 AM

         Canadian archaeologists have found the H.M.S. INVESTIGATOR, (right) wreck near Banks Island on the Beaufort Sea. The INVESTIGATOR along with the H.M.S. ENTERPRISE, (left)  was on a rescue mission  to search for Sir John  Franklin's lost expedition.  The INVESTIGATOR made two voyages to the Arctic and had to be abandoned in 1853 after she became trapped in the ice.

    

             The first ghostly immage of the sunken wreck was released by the Canadian Government working with Parks Canada, after the 120 foot wreck was discovered last July 25th. Parks Canada was able to find the vessel after the floating pack ice had moved away further out to sea.

              INVESTIGATOR had settled upright with its masts and rigging swept away long ago by moving ice floating above the wreck. Some parts of the super structure was also damaged by ice.

               Next summer, Parks Canada will send robot cameras inside the wreck to examine the crew's quarters and retrieve any artifacts that were not removed when the crew abandoned the ship.

       Montani semper liberi !         Happy modeling to all and every one of you.  

                                             Crackers                         Geeked

       

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Posted by Billyboy on Friday, July 30, 2010 4:13 PM

Best I can find is a sonar side-scan of the wreck. It is very obviously a pretty intact wreck, and easily identifiable from the side-scan as a mid 19th century merchantman.

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/07/29/wreckage-year-old-ship-canada/

 

Interesting discovery.

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Posted by rcweasel on Friday, July 30, 2010 6:03 AM

Exactly Crackers!! Amazing what forensic science can do today. When Franklin disappeared, stories came from the Inuit that white men were seen dragging a ships boat over the ice and snow filled with furniture,china and silverware from the ship. Those stories were immediately dismissed at the time, but fits perfectly with the effects of lead poisoning.

Bundin er båtleysir maøur - Bound is the boatless man

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Posted by crackers on Friday, July 30, 2010 2:29 AM

    The graves of the three crewmen buried on Beechey Island. They died in January 1846 from pneumonia and lead poisoning. Lead ingestion makes the victim irrational in thought and behavior, which evolves into poor decisions.

   Montani semper liberi !      Happy modeling to all and every one of you.

                               Crackers                                Geeked

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Posted by crackers on Friday, July 30, 2010 2:05 AM

        Rcweasel mentions that many of the British sailors died from scurvey in the arctic expeditions. They also were weakened by lead poisoning !   In 1984,Owen Beattie, John Geiger and others from the University of Alberta, Canada, organized an expedition to the arctic to search for more secrets of the disastrous Franklin Expedition. Landing on Beechey Island, a wind swept, treeless and forlorn piece of nowhere, they exhumed the first deaths of the expedition. The first body was that of Petty Officer, John Torrington, whose frozen preserved face can be seen on the cover of the author's book, as well as Abebodied Seaman and coal stoker, John Hartnell, and Private William Braine of the Royal Marines.

         Tissue samples from all three bodies, when taken back for forensic lab tests,revealed high levels of   lead.  The leading cause of the lead was related to the then new technology of food preservation in the tin containers with lead soldering of the seams.

          Among the items taken on the expedition were 8,000 lead-soldered tins containing 15,100 kilograms of preserved meat, 11,628 letres of  soup, 546 kilograms of pemmican, and 4,037 kilograms of preserved vegetables. In addition, lead-glazed pottery and tableware were used by 19th century British arctic expeditions.

       The storage and serving of acidic foods and beverages, which can dissolve lead salts, such as lemon juice, wine, vinegar or pickles in lead-glazed jars was the major source  of lead ingestion during the expedition.

  Other possible sources of lead poisoning included tea, chocolate and other food items stored in containers lined with lead  foil, as well as food coloring, tobacco products pewterware and lead wicked candles.

  Author Beattie believed that the problems of lead poisoning, compounded by severe effects of scurvey, could have amounted a lethel source of deaths of the expedition. Arctic survival requires the utmost health requirements. Burdened by the twin scourges of lead contamination and scurvey, it's a wonder anyone survived at all.

      Montani semper liberi !    Happy modeling to all and every one of you.

                     Crackers                           Geeked

 

Anthony V. Santos

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 29, 2010 9:53 PM

No Boo...such a lame thing that no pics are provided with the story...but they dig out an "artist's rendition"---what, are we back in the 1850's? No

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Posted by Big Jake on Thursday, July 29, 2010 9:35 PM

DDp59,

I understand that , that headline was simply cut and pasted from yahoo, they got it wrong.

 

 

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Posted by ddp59 on Thursday, July 29, 2010 8:42 PM

Big Jake, it wasn't recovered as that means taking it out of the water which it probably won't happen but was found as it was lost all this time.

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Posted by rcweasel on Thursday, July 29, 2010 7:39 PM

I'm anxious to see pictures too. It sounds like the ship is well preserved. The stories of all the expeditions to the arctic are truly amazing, though they don't get exposure of the antarctic expeditions. For anyone interested in the story of this ship and others, an excellent book is " The Arctic Grail: The Quest for the Northwest Passage and the North Pole, 1818-1909" by Pierre Berton. There are some amazing stories of courage, but also fatal arrogance and stubborness. The number of english sailors who died of scurvy instead of "going native" and eating the blubber that kept the Inuit from succombing to the disease is appalling. And don't even get me started on the Franklin expedition.

Bundin er båtleysir maøur - Bound is the boatless man

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Posted by crackers on Thursday, July 29, 2010 6:04 PM

  Subfixer...This is how the ship looked before it was crushed by the ice and sank.

          Montani semper liberi  !         Happy modeling to all and every one of you.

                                    Crackers                      Geeked

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Posted by subfixer on Thursday, July 29, 2010 3:53 PM

I'm looking forward to the pictures of the wreck.

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Ship lost for more than 150 years is recovered
Posted by Big Jake on Thursday, July 29, 2010 2:25 PM

We are havinga  good month for finding old vessels!

Ship lost for more than 150 years is recovered

TORONTO – Canadian archeologists have found a ship abandoned more than 150 years ago in the quest for the fabled Northwest Passage and which was lost in the search for the doomed expedition of Sir John Franklin, the head of the team said Wednesday.

Marc-Andre Bernier, Parks Canada's head of underwater archaeology, said the HMS Investigator, abandoned in the ice in 1853, was found in shallow water in Mercy Bay along the northern coast of Banks Island in Canada's western Arctic.

"The ship is standing upright in very good condition. It's standing in about 11 meters (36 feet) of water," he said. "This is definitely of the utmost importance. This is the ship that sailed the last leg of the Northwest Passage."

The Investigator was one of many American and British ships sent out to search for the HMS Erebus and the Terror, vessels commanded by Franklin in his ill-fated search for the Northwest Passage in 1845.

Environment Minister Jim Prentice said the British government has been notified that one of their naval shipwrecks has been discovered, as well as the bodies of three sailors.

Captained by Robert McClure, the Investigator sailed in 1850. That year, McClure sailed the Investigator into the strait that now bears his name and realized that he was in the final leg of the Northwest Passage, the sea route across North America.

But before he could sail into the Beaufort Sea, the ship was blocked by pack ice and forced to winter-over in Prince of Wales Strait along the east coast of Banks Island.

The following summer, McClure tried again to sail to the end of the Passage, but was again blocked by ice. He steered the ship and crew into a large bay on the island's north coast he called the Bay of Mercy.

There they were to remain until 1853, when they were rescued by the crew of the HMS Resolute. The Investigator was abandoned.

"This is actually a human history," said Bernier. "Not only a history of the Passage, but the history of a crew of 60 men who had to overwinter three times in the Arctic not knowing if they were going to survive."

The Parks Canada team arrived at Mercy Bay on July 22. Three days later, the ice on the bay cleared enough that researchers were able to deploy side-scanning sonar from a small inflatable boat over the site where they believed the wooden ship had eventually sunk. Within 15 minutes, the Investigator was found.

"The ship had not moved too much from where it was abandoned," said Bernier.

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The masts and rigging have long been sheared off by ice and weather. But the icy waters of the McClure Strait has preserved the vessel in remarkably good condition.

"It's incredible," said Prentice from Mercy Bay. "You're actually able to peer down into the water and see not only the outline of the ship but actually the individual timbers.

Archaeologists have also uncovered artifacts on land left behind by the stranded sailors, who unloaded everything before abandoning the Investigator.

The graves of three sailors thought to have died of scurvy have been marked off and will be left undisturbed, said Bernier.

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Bernier said the next step will be to send down a remote controlled video camera to get actual pictures of the wreck. There are no plans to bring it to the surface and all legal steps will be taken to ensure the site remains protected.

Bernier also said the team will use similar technology to find the Erebus and Terror

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100729/ap_on_re_ca/cn_canada_franklin_ship_found

 

 

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