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  • Member since
    January 2011
Posted by Bugatti Fan on Friday, January 7, 2011 10:41 AM

Give it a few years and I expect it will be re released again by Revell.

 It's a bit ironic isn't it that Brunel built 3 ships; the Great Western (kitted by Airfix), The Great Eastern (kitted by Revell) and the Great Britain (kitted by No One in plastic), and the only one that exists that can be physically measured and photographed has been ignored by mainstream kit manufacturerers.

  • Member since
    September 2005
  • From: Groton, CT
Posted by warshipguy on Wednesday, August 4, 2010 8:25 AM

Revell did release a kit of the Great Eastern in the early 1980's. It was part of their series of mid-scale, easy-to-build series of sailing ships, measuring approximately 2 feet long.  However, I'm not sure of the scale.

Bill

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    May 2008
  • From: UK
Posted by Billyboy on Wednesday, August 4, 2010 3:55 AM

I have a Revell (Germany) re-issue of the kit, and even that edition seems to fetch quite high prices on ebay today. The model is proportionally really quite good- but the detailing seems a little vague in places. There are some very obvious bloopers such as a lack of haweholes in the bows, and fewer than accurate number of paddles on her sidewheels.To be fair, it's hard to think how the paddle wheels could be better represented in this scale far short of a complex etched brass sub-assembly.

The kit represents the ship in her Cable-laying days, a modeller hoping to represent her as a trans-atlantic ocean liner is going to need to build a fifth funnel, as well as a myriad of other detail changes. Source material is plentiful though.

I imagine a really good build would make an impressive model, if not just the size of it! Building it well (or, more specifically, rigging it well) is beyond my skills at the moment (I think 1/96 is small!!)

http://www.modelshipgallery.com/gallery/misc/sail/greateastern-384-cd/cd-index.html

Will

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    June 2006
  • From: Carmichael, CA
Posted by Carmike on Monday, August 2, 2010 8:33 PM

I'm afraid that you're going to have to look on ebay or a site like oldmodelkits.com.

There are several pictures of completed kits on modelshipgallery.com.

It's has also been quite some time since I built this kit (I'm guessing 1965) but I recall that the kit was of the Great Eastern as a cable-layer with the fourth funnel removed (the boiler room was converted to a cable vault), a long trough running down the deck to the stern, and a reel over the stern, so if you want to build her as she appeared during her short career as an Atlantic liner, you'll have some scratch-building to do.

I also recall that the detail was fairly minimal, including some small lifeboats and, of course, the paddlewheels and the propeller.

It is indeed a unique model.  Good luck!

  • Member since
    May 2003
  • From: Greenville, NC
Posted by jtilley on Monday, August 2, 2010 8:58 AM

Dr. Graham's fine book, Remembering Revell Model Kits, gives the basic data about the kit.  It was originally released in 1963, with the kit number H-393, and remained in the Revell catalog through 1967.  He doesn't list it as having ever been reissued.  The book's coverage, however, stops in 1979.  On p. 111 is a nice color reproduction of a painting of the Great Eastern, with the caption:  "The Great Eastern first appeared in 1963 with John Steel box art.  This is [Jack] Leynnwood's rendition for the 1980 reissue."

Therein lies a hint at one of my very few criticisms of the book.  It really needs to be updated.  (Caveat:  my copy is of the "Revised and expanded second edition," published in 2004.  There's been a third edition; but the publisher's website says it still covers the fifties through the seventies.  I think the big revisions are in the collector's price list.)  Revell issued its first scale model kit, the old battleship Missouri, in 1953 (and still periodically puts it in a shiny new box and calls it a "new" product).  So the company has been making scale model kits for 57 years - and the book only covers 27 of them.

The book also concentrates exclusively on the American side of the company.  (That's certainly an understandable decision on Dr. Graham's part; if he'd included the British, German, Latin American, and other firms that have used the Revell name over the years the book would have been three or four times as big.)  Revell Germany has released a number of ship kits of its own, which aren't listed in the book.  The Great Eastern,  however, started out as an American kit.

I'm pretty sure it was also reissued for a while in an Entex box.  Other Olde Phogies will remember Entex as a Japanese firm that specialized primarily in marketing East Asian kits in the U.S. and Britain (and, I imagine, elsewhere).  Once in a while, though, American kits turned up in Entex boxes.

The price guide in Dr. Graham's 2004 edition estimates the Great Eastern as being worth $90-$110.

I built the Revell Great Eastern a couple of times when I was (much) younger.   I have to say I have mixed emotions about it.  Given its tiny scale (and the huge size of the actual ship), it probably was about as well-detailed and accurate as could reasonably be expected.  And there's no denying the ship's historical importance.  (A few years back I read a fascinating book called A Thread Across the Ocean:  The Heroic Story of the Transatlantic Cable,  by John Steele Gordon.  Highly recommended.)  But there's just no getting around the fact that, aesthetically, she was one of the ugliest ships ever built.  And to do her justice really requires a big model.  A member of our model club built one a couple of years back; as I remember, it was about five feet long.  That was big enough to give an impression of the sheer bulk of the real ship.

I'd be happy if all the Revell sailing (and sail/steam) ships, including this one, from the Goode Olde Dayes would come back.  In all honesty, though, this one wouldn't be at the top of my personal list.  (That position would have to go to the Flying Cloud.  At the present time, unless I'm much mistaken, the only American clipper ship on the market in plastic kit form is the ancient Lindberg/Marx Sea Witch.)  Other old Revell ones I'd like to see reissued include the Mayflower, the yacht America, and, of course, the 1/96 Cutty Sark - a classic that should never be allowed to disappear from the market.  Almost all of the other Revell "golden oldies," fortunately, are currently available - from either Revell Monogram, Revell Germany, or Heller.

Youth, talent, hard work, and enthusiasm are no match for old age and treachery.

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    December 2006
  • From: Jerome, Idaho, U.S.A.
S.S. GREAT EASTERN
Posted by crackers on Monday, August 2, 2010 3:40 AM

       The S.S. GREAT EASTERN at the completion of her cable laying project at Hearts Content, on July, 1866.

        The S.S. GREAT EASTERN was an iron paddle wheel, propeller, sail driven ship designed by Isambard Kingdom Brunel at the yards of J. Scott Russel and Co., at Millwall on the Thames, England.

         Her propulsion was four steam engines for the paddle wheels and a fifth steam engine for the propeller, aided by auxiliary sails for a top speed of 15 knots.

           At her launching on January 31, 1858, she had a capacity to carry 4,000 passangers  around the world without refueling

            After many construction delays and a failed first attempt at launching, the GREAT EASTERN had to turn back on her maiden voyage when she was damaged by a boiler explosion. Upon completion of repairs, she plied the Atlantic for several years between Britian and America at a financial loss.

            When the GREAT ASTERN failed to live up to expectations as a passanger liner, her passanger cabins were removed to store drums of cable wire to lay on the sea floor between England and North America.

             Finishing her life as a music hall in Liverpool, England, she was broken up in 1889-1890.

     Isambard Kingdom Brunel against the launching chains of the GREAT EASTERN at Millwall in 1857. Because of frustratuions of construction and launching delays that affected his health, Brunel died two years later from a stroke.

   Several years ago, Revell Germany issued a fine plastic model kit of the GREAT EASTERN. I have no idea if this kit is available on the market, or on e-Bay. Perhaps some of you out there in Forum land would know this answer.

  Montani semper liberi !          Happy modeling to all and every one of you.

                           Crackers                          Geeked

 

Anthony V. Santos

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