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Opinions wanted on new naval book...
Posted by Jeff Herne on Sunday, January 11, 2004 5:12 PM
As most of you know, I did a book on Fletcher, Gearing and Sumner Class Destroyers in WW2.

I've been tossing around the idea of doing a book dedicated to WW2 USN camouflage design sheets accompanied by photos...it would be a rather large book, or multiple volumes...

Does this interest anyone?

I have enough research material to basically finish it, but I want to make sure it's a subject that's going to be worth my time with regards to artwork, etc.

Jeff Herne
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Posted by therriman on Sunday, January 11, 2004 8:30 PM
Sounds good to me. If it wasn't too expensive I would get one. Would it be a Warship Prospectives book?
Tim H. "If your alone and you meet a Zero, run like hell. Your outnumbered" Capt Joe Foss, Guadalcanal 1942 Real Trucks have 18 wheels. Anything less is just a Toy! I am in shape. Hey, Round is a shape! Reality is a concept not yet proven.
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Posted by paulnchamp on Sunday, January 11, 2004 9:44 PM
I would also be interested if it weren't too expensive. It would certainly be a valuable reference. I'm assuming there would be lots of color?
Paul "A man's GOT to know his limitations."
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, January 11, 2004 10:00 PM
Jeff:
It would be an interesting and unique reference, but I'm afraid it is outside the scope of my modeling.
Best of luck with it,
Bruce

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Posted by nicholma on Monday, January 12, 2004 1:35 AM
Expense is always relative isn't it and its difficult to really quantify without knowing the chapter headings/content, number/type/size of photos, drawings etc. I'm always interested in something that isn't too expensive, aren't we all, so Jeff could you be a bit more expansive with the format, contents etc. I might be showing a little of my ignorance but did the camoflage patterns pertain across the fleets as it were or were small craft different to cruiser/aircraft carriers etc? What would be the drivers for multiple volumes or just one large book.
Kia ora, Mark "Time flies like the wind, fruit flies like bananas"
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Posted by Jeff Herne on Monday, January 12, 2004 9:32 AM
Well, let's discuss USN destroyers in WW2...without looking at my references, here's what I came up with

4-pipers - Clemson, Wilkes, etc
Bensons
LIvermores
Gleaves
Sims
Somers
Porters
Farraguts
Bristol
Fletcher
Gearing Sumner

Needless to say, lots of classes, and on average 10-15 patterns per class, then variations and oddballs.

The book would cover the design sheets for those ships that carried them, broken down by class, with a listing of all known vessels to have worn a particular scheme (multiple in some cases), including dates and colors.

Let's say for arguments sake that you buy a 1/700 Tamiya USS Cushing, a late war square bridge Fletcher. The pattern sheet in the instructions is ok for Cushing, but what if you wanted to do one of the other 175 ships in the class? Let say, USS Gregory. Where do you find a design sheet for Ms31/11d? Or a Ms16/32d for a Somers Class USS Davis?

Due to the sheer number of DD patterns, I'd have to do multiple volumes. Cruisers could be a volume in itself...

the books would most likely NOT be Warship Perspectives, since I'd want color throughout. Artwork would be done in various ways, since my partner in crime is Paul Bender, the artist who did much of the work on Bob Sumerall and Paul Stillwell's books, as well the Fletcher book by Raven on the Anatomy of the Ship.

I'm just wondering if there's an interest in a book of camo patterns like there would be for ship's plans.

Jeff
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Posted by therriman on Monday, January 12, 2004 9:59 AM
Yea I think its there (the interest). That's one of the areas I need most of my references in is the camo. Not just destroyers as I do other types as well.
Tim H. "If your alone and you meet a Zero, run like hell. Your outnumbered" Capt Joe Foss, Guadalcanal 1942 Real Trucks have 18 wheels. Anything less is just a Toy! I am in shape. Hey, Round is a shape! Reality is a concept not yet proven.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 12, 2004 12:46 PM
Jeff,
I'm amazed you could get all that in one book.
All those DD's w/ their different camos illustrated...Wow!
Would you show the camos like in Raven's book, from all angles?
I'd like one in my library, along w/ the one on Cruisers.
How much is this one going to set me back? Big Smile [:D]
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Posted by Jeff Herne on Monday, January 12, 2004 2:10 PM
No clue as of yet, I guess it depends on who publishes it.

J
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