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suggestions please
Posted by jamiemcginlay on Friday, September 3, 2010 4:03 PM

Hi,

I was watching an antiques programme recently and saw a display case made during WWII with scale models of Kriegsmarine ships which was made to help RAF pilots with identification and to avoid friendly fire incidents.

I was thinking for a long term project I might try to make similar cases, one for all of the Kriegsmarine and Italian navy vessels, including submarines and torpedo boats; and a matching one for all of the Royal Navy ships.  What I was wondering was what scale should I go for.  I have never gone smaller than 1/600, I would want them to be all same scale andsuppose 1/700 would fit better since space would be a limiting factor.  But are all of the vessels of the three navies available in 1/700?  I take it that as well as plastic I could go for cast metal kits, but would they look very different from the plastic kits?

Any advice would be welcome as I don't want to build a dozen ships and then realise I've made the wrong decision!

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, September 4, 2010 8:36 AM

So are you literally going to build EVERY vesssel each navy had?

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Posted by bondoman on Saturday, September 4, 2010 10:42 AM

Manstein's revenge

So are you literally going to build EVERY vesssel each navy had?

Manny' didn't you guys commission 1,150 U boats during the war?

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Posted by mfsob on Saturday, September 4, 2010 1:33 PM

Welllll ... I admire your ambition. As far as scale vs. availability, it's a mixed bag, I will say that, in general, you will find most of what you need in 1/700 these days. But it's going to be a mix of plastic and resin kits, and some of the resin kits can be rather pricey. But 1/700 does have the advantage of being able to put more ships in a given amount of space, due to their small size. It is great time to be a small scale ship model builder.

I assume you are rather young to start this undertaking. Kind of hope so!

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Sunday, September 5, 2010 5:05 PM

"Recognition" ship scale is usually 1:1200 or 1:2400,

This allowed two things.  One was to give a scale which replicated the size where recognition might occur in real life.  But, much more so, to be able to have one example of each warship class in a reasonably sized (and weighted) format.

That's because these collections get large very quickly.  DKM often only had a few ships in each class, but had a number of classes.  IJN will be very similar.  Which gets to be an issue if you are looking at 30-40 models each.  US or UK navy just as complicated, you are looking at around a dozen classes of DD, at least a dozen cruisers; the UK BB and CV classes being smaller than the plethora of US ones.  But, that's close to thirty, and has not addressed subs, patrol craft, or amphibious ships at all.

There was s similar situation with recognition aircraft in WWII.  These were around 1/144 if memory serves.  They sent out carving instructions and partially-finished phenol-resin kits for Scout troops and the like to assemble and finish. 

Which is not to say that this could not be done in 1:700.  It would be more than impressive.  Probably would require and entire wall to display.  Which would be impressive, too.    Rather like the thread with the fellow who built the entire RN in matchsticks.

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Posted by warshipguy on Sunday, September 5, 2010 8:16 PM

The Kriegsmarine is fairly well modelled in plastic in 1/700 and 1/720 scale. However, the Regia Marina  is currently represented only in resin kits (unless you go for 1/1200 or 1/1250).  Good luck!

Bill Morrison

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