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  • Member since
    January 2010
  • From: Topeka, KS
Conversion for CV-12?
Posted by Kastastrophy on Saturday, September 4, 2010 6:04 AM

I was curious if anyone knew of a kit, or how I would be able to make a model of the Carrier USS Hornet, CV-12?

 

My father was station on the Hornet for two tours during vietnam and was there when they pulled the apollo from the sea. I remember fondly of staring at his commemorative pin that they crew was given for retrieving the pod.

 

Thanks for the information.

 

Thomas

  • Member since
    September 2007
  • From: Truro Nova Scotia, Canada
Posted by SuppressionFire on Saturday, September 4, 2010 6:37 AM

Retrieving the 'Apollo' would make a excellent diorama and honor your fathers service.

Before tackling the entire ship how about just the deck, crane and crew pulling the module out of the water? It could be done in 1/72 scale or even 1/48 scale.

I am not sure which class of AC carrier the Hornet was. I do know they were commissioned and built in a series of classes. Find out which class of carrier it was and a sister ship can be bought, change a few decals & details to convert to the Hornet.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y211/razordws/GB%20Badges/WMIIIGBsmall.jpg

 

 

  • Member since
    August 2005
  • From: Mansfield, TX
Posted by EdGrune on Saturday, September 4, 2010 8:10 AM

Kastastrophy

I was curious if anyone knew of a kit, or how I would be able to make a model of the Carrier USS Hornet, CV-12?

 

My father was station on the Hornet for two tours during vietnam and was there when they pulled the apollo from the sea. I remember fondly of staring at his commemorative pin that they crew was given for retrieving the pod.

 

Revell packaged one of their Essex kits as 'Hornet Plus 3'  which represented the Hornet in her Apollo-recovery state.    Not totally accurate - not totally inaccurate.

The kit is not currently in production,  but appears time to time on eBay or model swap meets

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    May 2003
  • From: Greenville, NC
Posted by jtilley on Saturday, September 4, 2010 8:30 AM

As a matter of fact, by remarkable coincidence the old Revell "Hornet Plus 3" kit is scheduled for re-release this month:  http://www.revell.com/model-kits/ships/85-3014.html .

Youth, talent, hard work, and enthusiasm are no match for old age and treachery.

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    January 2009
  • From: Central CA
Posted by Division 6 on Saturday, September 4, 2010 9:02 AM

The Hornet is currently in Alameda Ca.

I have 2 friends that do volunteer work on her.

They have a room set up with memorabilia from the Apollo recovery including IIRC the foot path the astronauts took off the hanger deck.

It's been several years since my last visit.

 

As a side note they used to film JAG aboard her.

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    May 2008
Posted by tucchase on Saturday, September 4, 2010 3:34 PM

jtilley

As a matter of fact, by remarkable coincidence the old Revell "Hornet Plus 3" kit is scheduled for re-release this month:  http://www.revell.com/model-kits/ships/85-3014.html .

This looks like just what you are wanting.  It even includes the Apollo 11 module!Yes  Don't forget to post pics of whatever you decide to build!

  • Member since
    January 2010
  • From: Topeka, KS
Posted by Kastastrophy on Sunday, September 5, 2010 1:13 AM

Wow, hopefully it is decently priced. I would probably want to build at least two of them, one for the apollo retrieval and then one for his service time during the war. I grew up listening to so many stories, and he is the reason I got interested in modeling, although I usually was more into cars.

His stories were also the basis for me Enlisting when I turned 18 as well. My father was big into Model Trains and Armor but had recently started working on a large scale PT Boat that he was going to motorize for use on a pond. Sadly he passed away before that could be completed. That was back in 1996.

 

I will be sure to post what I have done when I am able to purchase these and start working on them. Thank you all for your help. I truly appreciate it.

 

Thomas

 

 

 

  • Member since
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  • From: Greenville, NC
Posted by jtilley on Sunday, September 5, 2010 10:59 AM

Kastastrophy

Wow, hopefully it is decently priced. I would probably want to build at least two of them, one for the apollo retrieval and then one for his service time during the war. I grew up listening to so many stories, and he is the reason I got interested in modeling, although I usually was more into cars.

The big question here:  which war?  The Hornet was active during World War II, Korea, and Vietnam - and, like most of the othe Essex-class carriers, she underwent modifications that changed her appearance dramatically during the course of her career.  

If your father served on board her during World War II, you'll like the Dragon kit in 1/700 scale:  http://www.squadron.com/NoStock.asp?item=DR7085 .  (There are also several 1/700 WWII-configuration Essex-class kits from Revell and Hasegawa.  Those are older kits; the Dragon one is to be preferred in just about every respect - except price.)

The Chinese company Trumpeter offers several Essex-class ships in the larger scale of 1/350, but the Hornet isn't among them.  No two of the ships in that class were absolutely identical, and they were built in two major variants "short-hull" and "long-hull."  The Hornet was in the "short-hull" group.  If you're a real stickler for accuracy, it probably wouldn't be too difficult to convert the Trumpeter Franklin ( http://www.freetimehobbies.com/TRP5604.aspx ) to the Hornet.  (And if you just put the Hornet's markings on it, few people would notice the difference.  (For that matter, Trumpeter also has a Franklin in 1/700:  http://www.freetimehobbies.com/TRP5730.aspx .  The Trumpeter 1/700 Essex-class kits seem to have a good reputation, and some dealers sell them for a little less than the Dragon kits.  All I can say from experience is that the Dragon ones are outstanding.)

The Essex class has been popular among the kit manufacturers ever since - well, ever since there have been plastic kits.  The first one, I believe, came from Lindberg, in the early 'fifties:  http://www.oldmodelkits.com/index.php?detail=2060&page=1&cat=Military Ship&manu=Lindberg .  As you can see, those old kits sometimes command high prices on the collectors' market.  There have been quite a few other Essex-class kits over the decades.  But in terms of detail and accuracy they can't compete with the newer kits.

If you're interested in the WWII configuration, either Dragon or Trumpeter will provide the basis for a beautiful model.  The 1960s configuration, with the "hurricane bow," angled deck, and modernized island, currently is only represented by that old Revell kit (which is about to be reissued).  Dragon seems to have been working its way through the different permutations of the class in its 1/700 series; I suspect it will eventually issue one in the 1960s configuration, but I have no idea when.

It's a shame you didn't have the opportunity to build a model of the Hornet for your father.  I gave my dad a model of his WWII ship (U.S.S. Bollinger, an attack transport - based on the old Revell Montrose kit) for Christmas when he was in his seventies; it was a big hit.  One of the big regrets of my life is that I never got him to sit down in front of a tape recorder (preferably late at night, with a martini or two under his belt) and record his memories of his navy career. 

Youth, talent, hard work, and enthusiasm are no match for old age and treachery.

  • Member since
    November 2003
  • From: Virginia
Posted by Mike F6F on Monday, September 6, 2010 10:13 AM

Thomas,

Good luck on your Hornet project.  Since your Dad served aboard during the 60's, the Revell kit will have to be the way to go.

The Hornet was a short-hulled Essex-class ship that was modernized to include the angled deck and hurricane bow as she appeared for the recovery of Apollo 11 and 12.

Lots of carrier builders are hoping for a new modernized Essex-class kit.

The Hornet museum sells an interesting book you may like.  It was published last year to coincide with the 40th anniversary of the Apollo 11 mission. It has lots of photos and tells many interesting bits about the unique training and navigation problems dealing with being at the right spot of the ocean to find a spacecaft returning from the moon.

Mike

 

"Grumman on a Navy Airplane is like Sterling on Silver."

  • Member since
    August 2005
  • From: Mansfield, TX
Posted by EdGrune on Tuesday, October 5, 2010 12:19 PM

jtilley

As a matter of fact, by remarkable coincidence the old Revell "Hornet Plus 3" kit is scheduled for re-release this month:  http://www.revell.com/model-kits/ships/85-3014.html .

A current posting on SteelNavy, from a vendor who is generally in the know, indicates that the previously announced re-release of the Hornet+3 kit has been canceled due to "mold problems".

Doc Tilley's link to the page on the Revell website no longer works.

Makes you say, Hmmmm!

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