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Idea for WWII submarine, USS Sea Tiger
Posted by daddy1 on Wednesday, September 29, 2010 9:56 PM

 While at the IPMS Modelpalooza I came across this little gem . Very neat thinking. Anyone seen the movie 'Operation Petticoat 'with Cary Grant and Tony Curtiss? 

The USS Sea Tiger

 My expertise is aircraft and cars, plus I don't have the space for any kind of diorama or larger scale subs, so I'm passing this on to you.

There are two scenes in this movie that come to mind. One, where there's not enough red or white primer to paint the sub. A dispay of the red and white primer being mixed and painted would be very unique.

Second is a luao on the aft deck . Unfortunately she is forced to put to sea before the crew can paint over the pink primer with Navy gray. Thus the pink submarine. A display of the luao would also make for a great model. 

 Just thought someone might like the idea enough to run with it. Would definately be different.

 Howard

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Posted by the Baron on Thursday, September 30, 2010 11:50 AM

Well, if you want to use figures, your best bet is probably the 1/72 kits that are out there.  You could do the dioramas in the smaller scales, with photo-etched Gumby's, but the impact would be more impressive in the larger scale.

When I was a kid, I always thought about using the old Revell kit of USS Growler, but I never went further with it, such as to check the movie and see whether the boat in the movie is a Gato-class boat.

Before I ever saw the movie, I saw the TV series, with John "Gomez Addams" Astin, Jamie Lee Curtis fresh off her role in "Halloween", Jim "Ernest" Varney, and character actor Peter "Holmes & YoYo" Schuck.

I agree, the Sea Tiger would be a great subject for a diorama.

Best regards,

Brad

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Posted by Division 6 on Thursday, September 30, 2010 2:52 PM

http://www.submarinesailor.com/History/Trivia/MovieBoats.htm

Operation Petticoat

  • Used the Balao to be painted pink. Filmed in Key West 1959-1960. I was chipping pink paint from around the screw guards in 1962. - Tim Spoon
  • Balao AGSS-285 - Steamboat
  • Final scenes, SS393. I don't know the name of the boat that was painted pink. - Jon Krup
  • There were two boats used in Key West... Archerfish was the one used for all the underwater shots... "stuff" fired from tubes, etc. That is Archerfish tied up inboard of Balao in the picture [below]. - Ken "Pig" Henry
  • It was Queenfish: Remember on the fleet boats there were flat metal numbers (and sometimes the boat's name as well), welded to the side of the superstructure, and usually always painted over (sometimes also painted white for contrast)....you can see the 393 in some scenes. - Gary "Cowboy" Mclaughlin
  • In further reading on 311 and 393 history, I think previous web site (Gary Walker's) and picture title may be wrong. 311 went back in service 1958*, assigned Key West, movie released in 1959. But 393 assigned to San Diego for same time period. Interesting. Shows research into history is as always .... verify verify verify - Don "donmac" Smith

    * correct year is 1957 - Ken "Pig" Henry
  • As a Balao qualified guy I have been following the saga of movie "Operation Petticoat" since I first reported aboard and watched the movie the same night.

    I am starting to believe that the Balao was painted pink, the Archerfish was used for shots in and around Key West as in original black/gray paint. The Queenfish was used for shots at the end of the movie, in black/gray paint, when the Sea Tiger is put OOC.

    At least with all the stories and the scenery in different parts of the movie this makes sense. - Tim Spoon
  • There is nothing to ask... The Deck Logs say it was Archerfish... it was Archerfish. I don't understand why we cannot agree that:
    1 - Balao was painted pink and used as the star of the movie.
    2 - Archerfish remained gray and was used for all submerged shots and underway shots of a "gray" submarine during the filming IN KEY WEST.
    3 - Queenfish was used for the filming of the WEST COAST scenes in beginning and end of movie.

    If someone out there is still determined to say that the gray boat inboard of the pink Balao in Key West on Gary's page is Queenfish, please provide us with some documentation that Queenfish came to Key West from the west coast to make this movie. - Ken "Pig" Henry
  • Tim Spoon is correct on all accounts. I was in Key West attending sonar operators school in January 1959. My class was pulled out of school for a couple of days to handle lines, etc. on shore, for a couple of scenes being shot: the sub was the Archerfish (grey paint). Sailors used for the same kind of scenes for Balao (pink paint) were from the Sub Base Key West. - Fr. Aaron S. Peters, O.S.B.

Here are a couple of the Deck Log entries from Archerfish (SS-311) when we were assisting with the making of Operation Petticoat - Ken "Pig" Henry:

February 18, 1959 - 0825- Moored starboard side to berths 5 and 6, North Quay Wall, US Naval Station, Key West, Florida. 1710- USS Balao (SS-285) moored alongside to port.

Joseph J. Kronzer, LTJG, USN

* * * *

[This is when Balao was painted pink for ‘Operation Petticoat’. There is a photo of Archerfish and Balao floating around the BB's. I think Gary Walker has a copy on his Atule site. Nobody knows who took the photo, but these log entries confirm that the "other boat" is Archerfish.] 

* * * *

February 20 - 0715- Mustered the crew at quarters. 0745- Balao underway from alongside. 0803- Underway. 0950- Set speed 10 knots, commenced Operation MoPix with YTB-543. [This was for filming our scenes for ‘Operation Petticoat’] 0951- Submerged. 1009- Surfaced. Stopped, lying to. 1139- Set speed 10 knots. 1146- Submerged.1209- Surfaced. Set speed 16 knots. 1248- Stopped, lying to. 1425- Set speed 16 knots, station the maneuvering watch. 1551- Moored starboard side to port side of USS Balao at berths 5 and 6, Center Mole, US Naval Station, Key West, Florida.

Albert W. Houston, LT, USN

* * * *

February 21-23, 1959 - Moored starboard side to berths 5 and 6, North Quay Wall, US Naval Station, Key West, Florida. USS Balao (SS-285) moored alongside to port.

* * * *

February 27, 1959 - 1015- Commenced steering various courses at various speeds while shooting various scenes for the movie ‘Operiation Petticoat’. In company with YTB- 543. 1408- Completed scheduled operations with YTB-543. 1529- Moored starboard side to the port side of the USS Chopper (SS-342) at north side of Pier #2, US Naval Station, Key West, Florida.

Steve L. Ramos, LT, USN

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Posted by RedCorvette on Thursday, September 30, 2010 4:51 PM

Sadly Tony Curtis died yesterday.  Operation Petticoat is one of my all-time favorite movies.

Mark

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Posted by fox on Thursday, September 30, 2010 9:04 PM

Ditto above.

JimCaptain

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