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CV-67 Plastic Kit 1/700

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  • Member since
    April 2010
  • From: Bangor Trident Sub Base, Wa
Posted by Shipbuilderjake on Tuesday, November 30, 2010 10:43 PM

Ebayed me a 1978 release of USS Kitty Hawk, which was mislabeled in a Monogram white white box. I know it's a 1/825 scale ship. But it has the slanted exhuast stack and the cats of the Kennedy match those of the Kitty Hawk. Having worked on both ships cat launchers and looking at technical schematics, I know that they are virtually identical, The only real difference I remember of CV-63 to 67 was back aft where the LSO's stand. Kitty hawk had a bigger finger area (aft of elevator 4) than that of the JFK, and of course the island.

  • Member since
    March 2005
  • From: near Nashville, TN
Posted by TarnShip on Tuesday, November 30, 2010 12:26 AM

back when I still built carriers,,,,,,the Kennedy was one of the Problem children

she was almost a Nimitz, but the deck layout was different (see the angle between the bow cats, and the starboard elevator layout

she had the same machinery as the America, but a different hull, again, compare the elevator area at the oval access doors to the hangar deck

after getting burned by buying the "CV-67 Georgetown" model (It's a Nimitz in the box),,,,,,I decided that I'd have to combine the Nimitz kit with the America kit (the exact opposite of Kinsey's method of building an America in Detail and Scale),,,,,,,and use a Monogram Island with plastic slabs in all three planes to increase it's buik,,,,,and then use bridge parts cut up (in 1/720 kits) to restore the island to the Monogram shapes

I sold off my CV kits after figuring this out, but before I got to the kitbashing part for the one-off ships

hope this helps

 

Rex

almost gone

  • Member since
    November 2003
  • From: Exeter, MO
Posted by kustommodeler1 on Monday, November 29, 2010 11:41 PM

Monogram did the JFK starting in the early '70s and released it as the Kitty Hawk and America with no changes to the kit, it stayed the one-off JFK parts inside. They just changed the decals.

 

But Monogram's is not 1/700, it's more 1/825 scale.

Darrin

Setting new standards for painfully slow buildsDead

  • Member since
    April 2010
  • From: Bangor Trident Sub Base, Wa
Posted by Shipbuilderjake on Monday, November 29, 2010 7:43 PM

Actually, I'm not going to mod anything, the kit is out there. Once I have it in my possesion I will get the thing together ASAP and show it to everyone. I have already purchased the 1/700 CV, CVA, CVN decals from Gold Medal Models to change the hull numbers from 63 to 67. I have tried to post a picture off the steelnavy website but no luck.

jpk
  • Member since
    August 2006
Posted by jpk on Monday, November 29, 2010 7:07 PM

The JFK was not a follow on to the KH class. It was a pre Nimitz class. Essentially an oil fired Nimitz. Look at the flight deck layout. Virtually the same as Nimitz. The America had more in common with KH/Connie as does the Enterprise. The JFK was originally going to be nuclear but the funding wasn't there so it went oil. If you want to do a JFK mod a Nimitz.

  • Member since
    January 2006
  • From: Sarasota, FL
Posted by RedCorvette on Monday, November 29, 2010 6:16 AM

Shipbuilderjake

I've been collecting the kits for the Gulf War flat-tops. The only one I'm missing is Independence, Roosevelt and JFK. Cannot find one anywhere, if there ever was one. Haven't found anything on one. My only other option is to retrofit Kitty-Hawk ?

Independence was a Forrestal-class ship that could be modeled from either a Forrestal, Ranger or Saratoga kit.

Roosevelt is a Nimitz-class.  Lots of those around

JFK was a single ship class with a unique island design, but had the same deck layout as the Kitty Hawk's (two starboard elevators forward of the island).  If you can't find a JFK, you could use Kitty Hawk or Constellation as a starting point.

Mark

 

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  • Member since
    August 2005
  • From: Mansfield, TX
Posted by EdGrune on Monday, November 29, 2010 6:15 AM

Shipbuilderjake

Price isn't a real concern. But isn't Fujimi a waterline kit ? In doing some more reading I think I've solved my problem. I just need some more time till the Ebay auction closes then I will divulge some rather detailed information on how to do it.

Yes it is waterlined.  See the review at Rajen's Kit List

  • Kitty Hawk-class (USN CV-63) {44130} [1/700] (Cold) WL
  • GOOD. But one of the most complicated aircraft carrier models I've wrestled with. It seems like everything that could have been made a separate part was (granted, to allow them to offer different kits representing different configurations over the years). There's a basic hangar deck, but it's a bit flimsy and keeps wanting to break its glue bond with the hull. Some shimming will be needed to keep the hull sponsons against the hull sides. The flight deck has detail molded in, but the scribe lines for the catapults and other details are big trenches. Fill them in and start over.

    That said, Fujimi pretty much nailed the basics of the Kitty Hawk and Constellation, unlike Italeri's stab at the same subject. The basics are correct, and a good modeler can add enough detail to really make this model shine. Like the Italeri kit of the USS America, it's a neat kit that nails the basics and, with a little time, it can really look great. You just need patience to build this model, though. (JMP), review dated 25 July 2005

    Editor's Note: Released as

http://www.quuxuum.org/rajens_list/shiprevs.html#FujKittyHawk

  • Member since
    April 2010
  • From: Bangor Trident Sub Base, Wa
Posted by Shipbuilderjake on Monday, November 29, 2010 1:02 AM

Price isn't a real concern. But isn't Fujimi a waterline kit ? In doing some more reading I think I've solved my problem. I just need some more time till the Ebay auction closes then I will divulge some rather detailed information on how to do it.

  • Member since
    December 2009
Posted by Harshman II on Sunday, November 28, 2010 9:32 PM

If you really trying on a retrofit Kitty Hawk. Get the Fujimi one if price is not a concern.

  • Member since
    April 2010
  • From: Bangor Trident Sub Base, Wa
CV-67 Plastic Kit 1/700
Posted by Shipbuilderjake on Sunday, November 28, 2010 8:55 PM

I've been collecting the kits for the Gulf War flat-tops. The only one I'm missing is Independence, Roosevelt and JFK. Cannot find one anywhere, if there ever was one. Haven't found anything on one. My only other option is to retrofit Kitty-Hawk ?

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