MAIN GUN ELEVATION--NEVADA & PENNSYLVANIA CLASSES

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Oh, by the way, what's with the words "amp;" building up with each reply in the topic title

HTML artifact.  Certain characters are reserved, but you can "force" them into use.

For instance, the "less than" angle bracket (Shift+Comma) "<" is used to start html tags.  To make one print not as a tag, you use &+LT+; or &lt; to make a "<"

The ampersand character (Shift+7) being 'reserved' needs a code, too.  Said code would be &+AMP+; to make "&"

The "gotcha" is that a "plain" ampersand "says" read next as code; the "amp;" afterward gets rendered as an add-on with each iteration after that.  this can be too much exciting on fora that use xtml and html in the reply boxes, rather than a text-edit window as here.  The title bar responds differently to allow search functions (is my bet).

Let's see if this fixes the incrementig &s

Bloomers were used to protect the interiors of the turrets as well as the slides on the guns.

Yeah, they were removable/replaceable. Here is a pic of Arizona in January '41. They are easiest to see on turret 4.

Oh, by the way, what's with the words "amp;" building up with each reply in the topic title

I know they are called blast bags but I believe - and I am not an expert - that the main purpose on at least the forward mounts was to keep seawater out in heavy seas, since otherwise the turret faces around the gun barrel sleeves would be essentially open. A secondary purpose was to keep out debris from the firing cycle.

looks like you are correct.  Thanks for that clarafication.

Supposedly, the Blast Bags were removable, and replaceable, as needed.  I would think having them off while in warmer climates would help ventilate the turrets.  I believe their purpose was to keep the over-pressure blast from the firing of the guns from coming back into the turret.  I am sure there is someone around here who will know what their intended purpose really is.

If you look closely in this photo, there appear to be blast bags in place.

I agree.  The few photos that I have found of ships of these 2 classes (late-war) in Mr. Friedman's book show that both have "bloomers" or blast bags, though they aren't as billowous as the later battleships.  The earlier photos in his book, though showing the faces of the main turrets, are inconclusive as to the appearance of these devices. However, one photo of Arizona seems to indicate the presence of blast bags. 

if talking about blast bags then yes.

Now that we are in the subject of main batteries, may I ask if they have bloomers just like the new fast battleships?

Thanks for that tip!  I'm currently building the Hobby Boss Arizona kit in 1/700, converting it to the Pennsylvania in 1935.  They modeled the battery as turrets with sockets where the gunports are, and separate gun barrels.  I will take extra care that the gun barrels are all level with one another--no small task, because I assembled one turret, and the middle gun is a little out of line with mates.  I will have to cut it out and re-attach it.

Best regards,

Brad

Thank you for your kind reply and warm welcome.  I am already on steelnavy.com and several others.

Well, Trumpeter hasn't quite corrected ALL the flaws, but they seem to have come a LOT closer than anyone else has in a plastic model.  For which I am grateful.  There are several threads here about the Arizona, and this particular model.  Check them out!  There are also many threads about the Arizona over on ModelWarship.com in the Ship Model Forum if you are interested in more information about the Arizona.  There is also steelnavy.com, and probably several others.  I think this forum and Ship Model Forum are the best though.

Aboard!