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Salvaged USS MONITOR steam enginer restored.

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Posted by crackers on Friday, January 14, 2011 11:18 AM

       Additional artifacts recovered recently, were engraved silverware, a wool coat and some furniture. Two human skeletons were found in the MONITOR's gun turret, a reminder of the 16 crew members who perished that stormy night off Cape Hatteras. Forty-six others were rescued.

        Montani semper liberi !     Happy modeling to all and every one of you.

                          Crackers                              Geeked

Anthony V. Santos

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Posted by Captain Morgan on Sunday, January 9, 2011 8:39 PM

Thanks guys for posting the videos and magazine references. Now that I see it in action I know I dont have all the tooling necessary to build it. Heck I dont even know if I have the skill.

That model engine is a work of art.

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Posted by Captain Morgan on Sunday, January 9, 2011 8:31 PM

Thanks for the info crackers. I will look into that. Would they have the actual prints for the engine from the 1860s?

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Posted by crackers on Sunday, January 9, 2011 7:44 PM

subfixer

While we are art it, here is a model of the USS Merrimac/CSS Virginia's engine.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQn-y5ZcMK0&NR=1

Thanks again, subfixer. Glad you found this website for us all to enjoy.

        Montani semper liberi !        Happy modeling to all and every one of you.

                             Crackers                                      Geeked

 

Anthony V. Santos

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Posted by subfixer on Sunday, January 9, 2011 5:33 PM

While we are at it, here is a model of the USS Merrimac/CSS Virginia's engine.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQn-y5ZcMK0&NR=1

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Posted by crackers on Sunday, January 9, 2011 3:24 PM

quote by subfixer on this thread:

Here is a link to a video of a working model of the engine: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWn8gQ9Ykpk

          Thank you subfixer for your posting the video of the MONITOR steam engine. In an earlier post, Captain Morgan asked if there is a plan to make this wonderful invention of John Ericsson. For those who have the metal tooling ability on a lathe, this would be quite a project.

               In my dream of dreams, I would like to see an attempt to creat a full size working replica of the original MONITOR. However, such being the bad state of economic times, this undertaking would be cost prohibitive.

              I have seen videos of underwater subjects that I would have liked to share with the Forum. However, I do not know how to move a video from another site to the Forum. Can anyone post me the steps on how to accomplish this procedure on my computer ?

        Montani semper liberi !       Happy modeling to all and every one of you.

                                        Crackers                                Geeked

 

Anthony V. Santos

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Posted by subfixer on Sunday, January 9, 2011 1:45 PM

Here is a link to a video of a working model of the engine: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWn8gQ9Ykpk

I'm from the government and I'm here to help.

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Posted by shoot&scoot on Sunday, January 9, 2011 12:17 AM

Captain Morgan

It sure would be awesome if they could publish plans of the engine so it can be reproduced. I wouldnt mind putting my lathe to use and make a scale model of it.

Check back issues of Live Steam magazine.  Working models of this engine have been built and operated and IIRC, one of the articles had plans.

                                                                                       Pat. 

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Posted by Andrew Magoo on Saturday, January 8, 2011 10:56 PM

I'm glad to see work like this being done on our historical artifacts, Thanks for posting pictures. Magoo

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Posted by sumter III on Saturday, January 8, 2011 5:23 PM

Nice to see it out in the open, here is a picture I took before it was removed.

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Posted by crackers on Saturday, January 8, 2011 4:28 PM

Captain Morgan

It sure would be awesome if they could publish plans of the engine so it can be reproduced. I wouldnt mind putting my lathe to use and make a scale model of it.

Captain Morgan: You might find this kind of information by contacting the Mariner's Museum and the MONITOR Exhibit at:   100 Museum Drive, Newport News, VA 23606   Phone:(757) 596-2222 or

                                  webmaster@marinersmuseum.org

  Montani semper liberi !      Happy modeling to all and every one of you.

                     Crackers                      Geeked

                                             

Anthony V. Santos

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Posted by Captain Morgan on Saturday, January 8, 2011 2:38 PM

It sure would be awesome if they could publish plans of the engine so it can be reproduced. I wouldnt mind putting my lathe to use and make a scale model of it.

Theirs not to make reply, Theirs not to reason why,
Theirs but to do and die: Into the valley of Death
Rode the six hundred

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Posted by crackers on Tuesday, January 4, 2011 11:02 PM

     A closer look at the corrosion and concretions on the recovered engine will give you the amount of hard work that is required to restore it into original condition. For the amount of effort at conservation, it is no wonder it will take 10 years before the MONITOR engine can be viewed by the public.

       Montani semper liberi !  Happy modeling to all and every one of you.

                                 Crackers                         Geeked

 

 

Anthony V. Santos

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Posted by keilau on Sunday, December 26, 2010 8:05 AM

crackers

 keilau:

The restoration of the steam engine is nothing short of amazing.

But who is that steam engineer being restored? What it takes to restore a human being? Devil

 

    Good question keilau. I wondered about that myself after I reread the thread.  That is a typo error on my part. Sometimes my fingers work faster than my pea brain.

       Montani semper liberi !       Happy modeling to all and every one of you. 

                                  Crackers                                Geeked

Anthony, this is a great post, the original one with the typo. Thank you for sharing.

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Posted by Winks on Sunday, December 26, 2010 1:44 AM

One of the times I was there, the tank was drained.  Got some great pics of the turret sans solution.

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Posted by subfixer on Friday, December 24, 2010 10:26 AM

I'm really looking forward to the turret to come out of its bath.  When you go to the Mariner's Museum you can see it in its tank with all of its goodies locked inside.

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Posted by Big Jake on Friday, December 24, 2010 10:24 AM

Don't feel too bad on the typos.  I once came within minutes of putting a "Pubic Notice" in the paper for my water works,  I can only imagine the calls and ribbing I would have takes over it. LIke I explained, I ran the spell check and nothing was flagged uh duh!

News paper caught it and called I had them fix it.

 

 

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Posted by jtilley on Friday, December 24, 2010 10:12 AM

Crackers, you need to delete one more letter from the title of the thread.  Now it's about something called an "enginer."

I have similar problems with typos.  My area of concentration at the university where I work is officially called "public history."  For all of the 27 1/2 years I've been here, I've been living in mortal terror of the day when I'm typing that term on some official document and I leave out the L.  Spellchecker won't catch it, and....

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Posted by Wabashwheels on Friday, December 24, 2010 10:06 AM

Anthony, thanks for sharing that story.  I think if I could have a do over, I'd love to have pursued a career in that type of archeology.  Rick

 

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Posted by crackers on Friday, December 24, 2010 9:56 AM

keilau

The restoration of the steam engine is nothing short of amazing.

But who is that steam engineer being restored? What it takes to restore a human being? Devil

    Good question keilau. I wondered about that myself after I reread the thread.  That is a typo error on my part. Sometimes my fingers work faster than my pea brain.

       Montani semper liberi !       Happy modeling to all and every one of you. 

                                  Crackers                                Geeked

Anthony V. Santos

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Posted by keilau on Friday, December 24, 2010 9:22 AM

The restoration of the steam engine is nothing short of amazing.

But who is that steam engineer being restored? What it takes to restore a human being? Devil

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Posted by Watchmann on Thursday, December 23, 2010 1:03 PM

Rich, it says: Andy Simmons 2006, www.ans-graphisc.com

He's got a nice picture of the CSS Virginia as well; luck under the "Latest" link on the webpage.

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Posted by Rich on Thursday, December 23, 2010 11:35 AM

Exraordinary. Would it be possible to read the attribution at the bottom right of the first photo?

Rich

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Posted by shoot&scoot on Thursday, December 23, 2010 8:54 AM

Never really knew what the power plant of the Monitor looked like and this was an eye opener.  The compactness of the design is really amazing and seems far ahead of it's time as was almost everything about the ship.  Looks like by driving the crank from above the centerline there would be no reason to have to bar the crank to get it off of dead center, truly revolutionary for a single cylinder engine. 

Also revolutionary is the idea of driving off of both sides of the piston instead of just one side as in most other steam engines.  You get the benefits of a twin cylinder design in a single cylinder package.  Simply astounding.  Thanks for sharing!

                                                                              Pat.

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Salvaged USS MONITOR steam enginer restored.
Posted by crackers on Wednesday, December 22, 2010 6:30 PM

           When Navy divers and NOAA archaeologists recovered the USS MONITOR steam engine from the bottom of the Atlantic in 2001, the pioneering propulsion unit was covered in a thick layer of marine concretion. sand, mud and corrosion, combined with ocean minerals of the deep Cape Hatteras, N.C. waters, covered every surface of the Swedish-American, John Ericsson's ingenious propulsion machine. 

      After nine years of desalination treatment, conservators at the Mariners' Museum and the USS MONITOR Center, drainer the 35,000 gallon container in which the engine was submerged and began removing the 2 to 3 inch thick layer of concretion with hammers, chisels and hand tools. Working slowly to avoid harming the original surface of the historic engine, more than two tons of encrustation was removed during the first week, to reveal a naval milestone not seen since the Union warship sank in a December 1862 storm off Cape Hatteras. Even though the engine spent 139 years underwater, it was in reasonable good shape. Some of the wrought iron plates had eroded , while the copper alloy parts looked brand new. 

      Smaller and more compact, the MONITOR's vibrating side-lever engine was the ideal match for the revolutionary warship. The long low horizontal cylinders enabled it to be placed below the waterline and the center of gravity behind a thick belt of armor to elimate the vulnerability associated with bigger engines on the decks of contemporary warships. This design astonished both Union and Confederate observers when the MONITOR engaged the Confederate VIRGINIA, ex-MERRIMAC, during the historic battle of Hampton Roads on March 8, 1862. Some naval designers suggested John Ericsson add masts and sails, which he vehemently refused, convinced his unusual propulsion system would work without auxilary sails. The turret and guns were the MONITOR's muscle, its steam engine its beating heart.

        Once all the concretion is removed, the complete engine will be resubmirged in a solution of distilled water and sodium hydroxide, while a low level electrical current is applied to release damaging chlorides. Later, conservators will dessasemble parts to be individually treated and cataloged . The most severely corroded parts will be replaced by exact replicas . It is expected to take between 10 to 15 years before the engine is reassembled and placed on exhibit in the museum.

     Edited from an article by Mark St John Erikson for the Newport News Daily Press. Both pictures transfered from Flickr. Courtesy of  Crackers' Nautical News.

         Montani semper liberi !       Happy modeling to all and every one of you.

                              Crackers                   Geeked

           

 

 

Anthony V. Santos

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