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Posted by the Baron on Tuesday, April 19, 2011 11:44 AM

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I wish Trumpeter had come out with a CV-6 and CV-5 Enterprise and Yorktown after the Hornet (CV-8).  There is a resin conversion, but it costs almost as much as the Hornet kit.  I would think the Enterprise especially would be very popular, and it would take them that much effort to add parts to cover the differences between the three ships.

Good point...it's more work to convert the Hornet back into either of her predecessors than it is to convert the Yorktown into the Enterprise or vice versa, isn't it?  And each of the three is equally celebrated, I think, that is, I would think the market would welcome each one with equal eagerness.

I've picked up the Tamiya Waterline series versions in 1/700, one CV-8 kit, and 2 CV-6, one to be finished as the Big E and the other as the Fighting Lady.

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Posted by wdolson2 on Saturday, April 16, 2011 5:49 AM

bondoman

Other than the CVE's that returned from lend lease, did the USN ever have a carrier that had previously sailed under a foreign flag, or for that matter been built in a foreign country other than Canada?

There was the USS Robin (aka HMS Victorious) which was loaned to the USN in 1943 to fill the gap while the Enterprise was in the yard and the first Essexes were working up.  The ship still had an RN crew with RN aircraft.

I wish Trumpeter had come out with a CV-6 and CV-5 Enterprise and Yorktown after the Hornet (CV-8).  There is a resin conversion, but it costs almost as much as the Hornet kit.  I would think the Enterprise especially would be very popular, and it would take them that much effort to add parts to cover the differences between the three ships.

I ended up with two 1/350 Lexingtons and I'd like to make one of them into a late war Saratoga.  Nobody has a conversion out there though.

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Posted by RedCorvette on Thursday, April 14, 2011 9:25 AM

What about Sable & Wolverine?

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, April 13, 2011 7:54 PM

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 knoxb:

Ok, lots of other 'classes' not available in 1/350.

Here's another idea...how about just representing the USN 'categories'..

CV / CVA / CVE / CVL / CVS/ CVT/ AVT/ LHA. 

Maybe skip the LSTs. 

 

Don't forget the Wasp-class LHDs...

and the LPHs...

 

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Posted by kustommodeler1 on Wednesday, April 13, 2011 7:15 PM

I would love to have a post- 101.66 Midway in 1/350, but alas the only one I know of is Arii's 1/800 scale.

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Posted by bbrowniii on Wednesday, April 13, 2011 1:08 PM

knoxb

Ok, lots of other 'classes' not available in 1/350.

Here's another idea...how about just representing the USN 'categories'..

CV / CVA / CVE / CVL / CVS/ CVT/ AVT/ LHA. 

Maybe skip the LSTs. 

Don't forget the Wasp-class LHDs...

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Posted by EdGrune on Wednesday, April 13, 2011 12:18 PM

the Baron

Please note, too, that the Wasp (CV-7) and Ranger (CV-4) were separate, different designs; the list item might tend to suggest that they were of the same class, and so, one model could be done as either ship.

Is there a 1/350 model of either of those two?  I wasn't aware of any.

I'm trying to do the same kind of collection, but in 1/700.  I can build 8 of the first 10, missing, of course, the Ranger and the Wasp.  I'm keeping my eyes open for the old Corsair Armada kits.

Best regards,

Brad

There was a resin Ranger in 1:350,   but it never saw the light of day beyond the master stage.  Iron Shipwright had the master with them at the 2001 IPMS Nationals in Chicago.     The market (even back then) killed it.  The size of the hunk-o-resin that would have been required to make one put the kit unit price in the same vicinity as a Blue Water Navy Enterprise.    The market would not sustain its development beyond the master.

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Posted by the Baron on Wednesday, April 13, 2011 11:50 AM

Please note, too, that the Wasp (CV-7) and Ranger (CV-4) were separate, different designs; the list item might tend to suggest that they were of the same class, and so, one model could be done as either ship.

Is there a 1/350 model of either of those two?  I wasn't aware of any.

I'm trying to do the same kind of collection, but in 1/700.  I can build 8 of the first 10, missing, of course, the Ranger and the Wasp.  I'm keeping my eyes open for the old Corsair Armada kits.

Best regards,

Brad

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Posted by constructor on Wednesday, April 13, 2011 7:17 AM

I will be happy with just the WWII carriers.

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Posted by COChef on Wednesday, April 13, 2011 1:54 AM

In the 60's the US Navy gave the USS Cabot (CVL 28) to Spain after 12yrs in mothballs Spain returned it in 1989

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Posted by ddp59 on Saturday, January 1, 2011 6:38 PM

i have the angled deck lexington as a trainer.

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Posted by TarnShip on Saturday, January 1, 2011 5:37 PM

they were 1/535-540 or so, depending on who listed them, Revell had an ancient 1/720 straight deck though,,,,,,the first one I built was a Franklin boxing, I believe it was released later as an Intrepid, with no changes to the sprues

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Posted by Mikeym_us on Saturday, January 1, 2011 5:14 PM

I do believe that Revell released some angle decked Essex's in 1/720 scale years ago.

On the workbench: Dragon 1/350 scale Ticonderoga class USS BunkerHill 1/720 scale Italeri USS Harry S. Truman 1/72 scale Encore Yak-6

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Posted by TarnShip on Saturday, January 1, 2011 4:20 PM

pretty sure that Ed and Tracy know this as well or better than I do, but,,,,,you really can't do the whole list in either scale, yet

these sites will help you sort out a ship kit list,,,,,and you can see the gaps in models available

http://www.navsource.org/

http://www.hazegray.org/navhist/carriers/ is a list site of World carriers

http://www.quuxuum.org/rajens_list/rajen.html

the missing ships is what caused me to build only "one of each class"

no 1/700 or 1/350 Kennedy (NOT very similar at all to a Kittyhawk)

no Midways in 1/350, but, you can get angled Midways in resin, in 1/700, for a price

no Angled Essex, either,,,,in either scale,,,,and you need those for the 27C+125's, the 27A+125's,,,whether you want them for CVA, CVS, CVT, or LPH, you even have to get a resin set in 1/350 to do a 27C straight deck(of is that set for a 27A?, I forget)

you can get the LHA in 1/700 or 1/720, and the LHD's in 1/700 or 1/350, but no LHA in 1/350,,,,,,same with the LPH's,,,,,,in 1/700 okay, but not 1/350

CV/CVL-22 to 30 in 1/700 or 1/350, okay,,,,,,but neither has a CVL-48 or 49

the CVE that just came out will let you do the LPH Thetis Bay, if you are good enough to scratch the rear of the flight deck

there is a long way to go to get the "full list" in either scale,,,,but, it is getting better

hope the links helped

Rex

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Posted by bondoman on Saturday, January 1, 2011 4:15 PM

L'arsenal used to sell a Bogue in 1/350. Hasegawa now sells a Casablanca. Tamiya used to sell a Bogue in 1/700.  Don't forget CVN.

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Posted by knoxb on Saturday, January 1, 2011 3:43 PM

Ok, lots of other 'classes' not available in 1/350.

Here's another idea...how about just representing the USN 'categories'..

CV / CVA / CVE / CVL / CVS/ CVT/ AVT/ LHA. 

Maybe skip the LSTs. 

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Saturday, January 1, 2011 1:12 AM

EdGrune

... as well as the LSTs modified to carry/launch Grasshopper observation planes (Operation Dragoon)

Thank you most kindly Ed, the smile that cause was well worth the facepalm D'oh! <g>

 

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Posted by Mike F6F on Friday, December 31, 2010 10:30 AM

Bondo,

No, the US never "had" carriers that served in foreign navies.  We did build some for lend/lease along with other ship classes, but didn't take a carrier built for foreign service and commission it in the USN.

Shipyards in the US did take some CVEs and concert them back to commercial vessels post WW2.

It would be interesting to see some kits modified for the various stages of modernization that took place for the Essex-class and the Midways.  You'll have the modernized islands, etc. for the early stages all the way to the SCB-125 angled decks.

Even some after market conversion sets, I think, could be a good idea.

Don't forget the 1/700-1/720 stuff too.  Since I go for the smaller scale stuff myself.

Mike

 

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Posted by EdGrune on Friday, December 31, 2010 6:29 AM

CapnMac82

And, at that level of completeness, probably ought to include a Fletcher with catapult, and the sidewheel training carrier that was on the Great lakes.

... as well as the LSTs modified to carry/launch Grasshopper observation planes (Operation Dragoon)

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Posted by Milairjunkie on Friday, December 31, 2010 4:40 AM

bondoman

Other than the CVE's that returned from lend lease, did the USN ever have a carrier that had previously sailed under a foreign flag, or for that matter been built in a foreign country other than Canada?

Don't believe so.

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Posted by bondoman on Friday, December 31, 2010 2:10 AM

Other than the CVE's that returned from lend lease, did the USN ever have a carrier that had previously sailed under a foreign flag, or for that matter been built in a foreign country other than Canada?

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Posted by Tracy White on Friday, December 31, 2010 1:52 AM

And Saratoga CV-3 don't forget...

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Posted by Jeffry on Friday, December 31, 2010 1:51 AM

Hello everyone

 

Hancock

Ticonderoga

Hornet

Lexington

Franklin

All Trumpeter 1/350 kits

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Posted by Tracy White on Friday, December 31, 2010 1:47 AM

Hi Knox... please re-read, the Independence class was a CVL not a CVE. The CVEs could not keep up with the fleet carriers, being built on slower merchant  hulls, whereas the CVLs started out as cruiser hulls. Read above, your question has already been answered.

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Posted by knoxb on Friday, December 31, 2010 12:12 AM

After a little googling, I think we can shorten EdGrune's list.

1. Forrestal class - Forrestal, Ranger, Saratoga, Independence.

2. Kittyhawk class - Kitty Hawk, America, Constellation...Kennedy was heavily modified Kittyhawk.

3. Wasp/Ranger

4. Midway class

What other CVE's besided  Independence and Casablanca?

 

 

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Posted by bondoman on Friday, December 31, 2010 12:00 AM

Independence class is CVL, not Escort. Also Saipan class.

CVE Classes missing; first was Long Island, foremost Bogue (and subclass Prince William), then Sangamon, Charger, Casablanca (listed), and Commencement Bay classes.

 

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Thursday, December 30, 2010 10:46 PM

Would be a heck of an assembly, though.

Almost would have to sort them by size, since some spanned eras, designations, too. 

Should the CVS be shown or treat them separately?  Ok, brain locking up, were the "jeep" carriers AVT at one point?  Weren't Midway and Lexington CVT at some point?

And, to be fair, probably ought to include the helo carriers, too--could restrict that to only LHA. 

And, at that level of completeness, probably ought to include a Fletcher with catapult, and the sidewheel training carrier that was on the Great lakes.

This might be a tad easier in 1/700 if only for the displaying of it <G>.

Rather like an assembly of every USN carrier-borne aircraft.  Seems simple at first, until you start writing this stuff down. <G>

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Posted by ddp59 on Thursday, December 30, 2010 10:09 PM

other cve classes still missing.

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Posted by EdGrune on Thursday, December 30, 2010 6:57 PM

Missing:

Wasp

Midway/Coral Sea/FDR

the angle-deck mods for the Essexes

Forrestal

new Saratoga

new Ranger

Independence

America

Constellation

Kennedy

Kitty Hawk

 

Nowhere as complete as you may think

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