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"Sahara" Ironclad kit???

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"Sahara" Ironclad kit???
Posted by Jester75 on Thursday, January 20, 2011 10:05 PM

Which ironclad was supposedly portrayed in this movie and is there a kit of this particular ship of one similiar to it? Would love to build it as it just looked wayyy cool sliding out of the river in the into to the movie.

Eric

 

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Posted by bondoman on Thursday, January 20, 2011 11:25 PM

The CSS Texas was the ship in the book, and was a real ship. The ship in the movie had a longer superstructure and look more like the Virginia (often called Merrimac).

I found one model for you, which must be about 3" long.

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Posted by tigerman on Friday, January 21, 2011 12:15 AM

The real CSS Texas was unfinished and abandoned in Richmond.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CSS_Texas 

Found this

http://cgi.ebay.com/CSS-Texas-Sahara-movie-version-1-192-multi-media-PE-/370475075987

I read something that the movie version was based more on a Virginia, then the actual Texas. The actual model appears to be completely fictionalized, but takes some aspects of multiple different classes of CSS ironclads and morphs into something completely new.

   http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/wing_nut_5o/PANZERJAGERGB.jpg

 Eric 

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Posted by Division 6 on Friday, January 21, 2011 7:05 AM

I would love to have the model that was sitting on the table in the movie.

That one on ebay doesn't look right and I don't know why the guy had to guess on the lower hull since the model was seen from a number of angles in the film.

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Posted by Jester75 on Friday, January 21, 2011 8:51 PM

Hmm. not sure about the one on eBay and the 700th one sounds just waaay to small. One about the size of the one in the movie would be sweet. Wonder how hard it would be to scratch??

Eric

 

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Posted by enemeink on Friday, January 21, 2011 9:23 PM

you really shoul read the book. a much better story line.

"The race for quality has no finish line, so technically it's more like a death march."
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Posted by Division 6 on Friday, January 21, 2011 9:47 PM

That movie is what got me reading Cusslers books.

For a while I was reading 4 a week, sadly I'm a bit behind on my reading books still in my stash and have a few to still pick up.

I really need to finish my 2 NUMA PBY's and get started on my I-403.Whistling

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Posted by Jester75 on Friday, January 21, 2011 10:04 PM

enemeink

you really shoul read the book. a much better story line.

Actually, I had read about all of Dirk Pitts adventures before they announced the movie. Clive is an amazing writer and ties things together that you would never think could be in the same story. I haven't read any of the books with the new character after Dirk and Al. Personally, the movie was a big dissappointment for me since I had read the book, but most movies based on a novel are TBH.

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Posted by Division 6 on Saturday, January 22, 2011 9:23 AM

His newest book is Dirk Pitt.

The site Cusslermen has a listing of the books and what characters are in them.

For the life of me I could have sworn I did screen caps of the movie (specifically the model) a few months ago but now I can't find them.

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Posted by enemeink on Saturday, January 22, 2011 11:07 PM

Jester75

 enemeink:

you really shoul read the book. a much better story line.

 

Actually, I had read about all of Dirk Pitts adventures before they announced the movie. Clive is an amazing writer and ties things together that you would never think could be in the same story. I haven't read any of the books with the new character after Dirk and Al. Personally, the movie was a big dissappointment for me since I had read the book, but most movies based on a novel are TBH.

I've read almost all of the cussler books and here's what i think of each of the series:

the Kurt Austin ones are almost the same as the Dirk Pit books so I like them. The Isaac Bell detective books are a nice change up and takes place around the turn of the century. i like these ones a lot as well . the Oregan file book are ok they are a good read from time to time. but the fargo character books are nothing to get excited about.

I agree about the movie. i was pretty excited about it when i heard that it was coming out, but was disapointed when i saw it opening night.

"The race for quality has no finish line, so technically it's more like a death march."
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Posted by Tracy White on Sunday, January 23, 2011 11:46 AM

You might look into the Verlinden 1/200th scale Ironclad kits; the Atlanta and Palmetto State are similar in appearance to what I've been able to see of the movie ship online:

http://www.verlindenonline.com/store/index.php?cPath=102_133

They go together really well

Tracy White Researcher@Large

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Posted by Billyboy on Monday, January 24, 2011 9:20 AM

If ever there was a type of vessel that is an ideal scratchbuild project, the 'casemate' ironclads must surely be them?! I'd love to have a go, but scale drawings are very hard to come by in the UK.

Will

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Posted by bondoman on Thursday, January 27, 2011 12:39 AM
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Posted by warshipguy on Thursday, January 27, 2011 8:22 AM

Gentlemen,

Please help me out here . . . what movie and what series of books?

Thanks!

Bill Morrison

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Posted by EdGrune on Thursday, January 27, 2011 11:23 AM

warshipguy

Gentlemen,

Please help me out here . . . what movie and what series of books?

Thanks!

Bill Morrison

The 2005 movie 'Sahara' see iMDB  http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0318649/

Books by Clive 'Raise the Titanic' Cussler

 

 

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Posted by enemeink on Thursday, January 27, 2011 1:44 PM

EdGrune

 warshipguy:

Gentlemen,

Please help me out here . . . what movie and what series of books?

Thanks!

Bill Morrison

 

The 2005 movie 'Sahara' see iMDB  http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0318649/

Books by Clive 'Raise the Titanic' Cussler

 

 

the book series are Dirk Pitt Adventures. the book Sahara is pretty good. the movie was good, if you don't take the book into consideration.

"The race for quality has no finish line, so technically it's more like a death march."
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Posted by Division 6 on Thursday, January 27, 2011 1:57 PM

The book Pacific Vortex was the first book that was written but Mediterranean Caper (aka Mayday) was the first published.

PV is actually referenced in MC as with so many of his books often refer to things that happened in previous books, although at times there are mistakes made.

Pacific Vortex (1983) (Dirk Pitt Adventure)
Mediterranean Caper (1973) (Dirk Pitt Adventure)
Iceberg (1975) (Dirk Pitt Adventure)
Raise the Titanic (1976) (Dirk Pitt Adventure)
Vixen 03 (1978) (Dirk Pitt Adventure)
Night Probe (1981) (Dirk Pitt Adventure)
Deep Six (1984) (Dirk Pitt Adventure)
Cyclops (1986) (Dirk Pitt Adventure)
Treasure (1988) (Dirk Pitt Adventure)
Dragon (1990) (Dirk Pitt Adventure)
Sahara (1992) (Dirk Pitt Adventure)
Inca Gold (1994) (Dirk Pitt Adventure)
Shockwave (1996) (Dirk Pitt Adventure)
Sea Hunters (1996) Non-Fiction
Flood Tide (1997) (Dirk Pitt Adventure)
Clive Cussler and Dirk Pitt Revealed (1998)
Serpent (1999) NUMA Files
Atlantis Found (1999) (Dirk Pitt Adventure)
Blue Gold (2000) NUMA Files
Valhalla Rising (2001) (Dirk Pitt Adventure)
Fire Ice (2002) NUMA Files
The Sea Hunters II (2002) Non-Fiction
White Death (2003) NUMA Files
Golden Buddha (2003) Oregon Files
Trojan Odyssey (2003) (Dirk Pitt Adventure)
Lost City (2004) NUMA Files
Sacred Stone (2004) Oregon Files
Black Wind (2004) (Dirk Pitt Adventure)
Polar Shift (2005) NUMA Files
Dark Watch (2005) Oregon Files
The Adventures of Vin Fiz (2006) Children's Book
Skeleton Coast (2006) Oregon Files
Treasure of Khan (2006) (Dirk Pitt Adventure)
The Navigator (2007) NUMA Files
The Chase (2007) Western
Plague Ship (2008) Oregon Files
Arctic Drift (2008) (Dirk Pitt Adventure)
Corsair (2009) Oregon Files
Medusa (2009) NUMA Files
Spartan Gold (Fargo Adventure)
Wrecker (2009) Isaac Bell Series
The Silent Sea (2010) Oregon Files
The Adventures of Hotsy Totsy (2010) Children's Book
The Spy (2010) Isaac Bell Series
Lost Empire: A Fargo Adventure
Crescent Dawn (Dirk Pitt Adventure)

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Posted by Jester75 on Thursday, January 27, 2011 2:54 PM

I thought Raise the Titanic was first published but Mediterranean Caper was written first? Probably got them mixed up but I have read 95% of those on that list and have enjoyed all of them. Currently looking for them all in hardback to add as a collection.

Eric

 

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Posted by enemeink on Thursday, January 27, 2011 11:02 PM

i don't know if anybody remembers this but Raise the Titanic was also made into a movie. I haven't watched it in 20+ years so i don't really recall anything about it though.

"The race for quality has no finish line, so technically it's more like a death march."
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Posted by Division 6 on Friday, January 28, 2011 7:01 AM
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Posted by sumter III on Friday, January 28, 2011 6:48 PM

Flagship models carry a full line of Southern Ironclads and PE sets for scratch building.  The movie ship was a copulation, based on Richmound class ships.

I have built The Flagship Models Palmetto State and Chicora, both were great kits and a lot of fun.  I highly recommend them.

You can find the Palmetto State on the Steel Navy site.

 

 

 

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