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USS Essex
Posted by Bigb123 on Wednesday, February 2, 2011 5:10 PM

Hello all!   I've been looking at modeling the USS Essex, which, unless I am wrong, was very similar to the USS Constitution.  I'm not talking about the WWII aircraft carrier Essex.  I'm pretty sure there was a wooden kit out for this ship a long time ago, and a magazine like Model Ship Builder or Ships in Scale had a series of articles about it.  If anyone could offer more information, help, or clarification on any of this, i'd be very greatful.  Thank you all!!

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Posted by Billyboy on Thursday, February 3, 2011 7:06 AM

The wooden kits you are probably thinking of are the Model Shipways models at 5/64"=1ft and one at 3/16"=1ft. Both long out of production, but turn up regularly on the second hand market. A few years ago I turned up the opportunity to buy a part-finished Essex for a small sum and I regretted it ever since!

BTW, Essex was a contemporary of Constitution, but rated as a 32 gun ship was much smaller (although still very large for her rate- a 36 gun by most logical standards; she was 141ft on the gundeck) A very handsome ship, and regarded as a good sailer, even though later commanders ruined her sailing qualities by over bearing her hull because she was a sharp vessel with consequently little room in her displacement to add a lot of extra weight!

If you're interested in sailing ships of the US navy I'd recommend finding a copy of Howard Chapelle's seminal work 'The History of the American Sailing Navy'.

Will

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Thursday, February 3, 2011 8:49 AM

Billyboy

The wooden kits you are probably thinking of are the Model Shipways models at 5/64"=1ft and one at 3/16"=1ft. Both long out of production, but turn up regularly on the second hand market. A few years ago I turned up the opportunity to buy a part-finished Essex for a small sum and I regretted it ever since!

BTW, Essex was a contemporary of Constitution, but rated as a 32 gun ship was much smaller (although still very large for her rate-

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Will

When I was a kid my local hobby shop had one of the MS Essex kits on display.  How I longed for that kit.  But it was too expensive for my resources- I had to stay with Sterling and Guillows kits (balsa hull- I believe the MS kit was basswood or something like that).  The kit sure looked like a real step up from the kits I was building.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by shannonman on Thursday, February 3, 2011 2:08 PM

There is a book in the  " Anatomy of the ship " series which might help.

 

 

 

 

"Follow me who can" Captain Philip Broke. H.M.S. Shannon 1st June 1813.
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Posted by Bigb123 on Thursday, February 3, 2011 4:11 PM

OKay, thanks everybody!   I'll look for the books.  Maybe I'll get lucky and a kit will pop up on evilbay.   Who knows... 

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Posted by ragc on Friday, March 4, 2011 8:30 PM

Small correction: the Model Shipways scales were 5/64" and 1/8".  I recently found a 1/8" scale model, complete, in an old junk store.

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Posted by warshipguy on Saturday, March 5, 2011 1:30 PM

There are a couple of them for sale right now on ebay (the 1/8 scale kit).

Bill Morrison

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Posted by ggatz on Sunday, March 6, 2011 7:32 PM

If plans will help, TAUBMAN PLANS SERVICE INT’L has three sets ..

 

I understand the set by Portia Takajian are very good, but not exactly cheap ..

 


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Posted by scottrc on Monday, March 7, 2011 10:41 PM

I'm currently working on a Essex  project since I have been intrigued at how graceful and symetrical the Essex's design was for the period.  Model Ship Builder ran an article on scratchbuildng the Frigate Essex in 1986.  Both Model Shipways and Marine Models did the solid hull kits in 5/64.  Aeropicolla did a POB kit in a odd scale that is still shown on their website.

Like the Constitution, the ship went through a number of modifications from 1799 until its capture in 1814 and then it was in the Kings service for another 15 years.  So there is a number of ways to build the ship.  The most common is to put her at 46 guns, with 40 of these the 32lb carronades that David Porter detested so much but the Secretary of the Navy forced him to keep. 

Portia Takiajan's book is must if planning a detailed model.  I have this book and the Taubman plans and have been very pleased with them.

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Posted by knoxb on Monday, March 7, 2011 10:50 PM

I thought the Essex was sunk in Valpariaso harbor.

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Posted by crackers on Tuesday, March 8, 2011 1:39 AM

   No.     USS ESSEX was cornered in Valpariaso Harbor on February 8, 1814, by HMS PHOEBE and CHERIB.  After a prolonged fight with a great loss of life on the ESSEX, she was forced to surrender. Taken into the Royal Navy, the ship served many years and in her final days became a prison hulk . In 1836, she was sold and burned the following year to salvage her metal parts.

    Montani semper liberi !     Happy modeling to all and every one of you. 

                                 Crackers                                    Geeked

Anthony V. Santos

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Posted by ragc on Tuesday, March 8, 2011 8:00 PM

scottrc

Both Model Shipways and Marine Models did the solid hull kits in 5/64.  Aeropicolla did a POB kit in a odd scale that is still shown on their website.

Model Shipways, as mentioned in the thread, also had a 1/8" scale version: this is the one I found recently!

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