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Posted by crackers on Tuesday, February 15, 2011 3:21 AM

  George    

           George Pollard,Jr  was born in 1791on the Island of Nantucket, Mass. The son of a ship's captain, he went to sea early.  By the time he was 28 years old, he had served aboard the ESSEX for four years as a second mate and a first mate.

            In 1819, Pollard was appointed captain of the ESSEX by the owner, Gideon Folger ( an ancester of Folger coffee) and Sons. On August,  preparations were made to sail to the Pacific. Other members of the 21 man crew included Owen Chase, as first mate, Matthew Joy, as second mate and six other Nantucket men, one of whom was Owen Coffin, a 17 year old cousin of George Pollard, who was instructed by Nancy Bunker Coffin, the aunt of Owen Coffin, to care and protect the teenage boy, and teach him shipboard life. The rest of the crew were inexperienced seamen from Cape Cod and Boston.

             Four days after leaving Nantucket, the ship was struck by a severe storm that rolled her on her beam ends, so that the tip of the yards almost touched the angry sea. Two of the whaleboats were carried away, while a third was badly damaged. Captain Pollard decided the damage to his ship so extensive that they should turn back to Nantucket for repairs. His first and second mates Chase and Joy, persuaded Pollard to sail to the Azores for repairs and replacement of the whaleboats.

               After a difficult passage around Cape Horn, the ESSEX arrived in the Pacific in January 1820. On November 20th, the ESSEX was torpedoed twice by an enraged bull sperm whale. The rest is history. 

             Bondoman: As a child, I spent two wonderful summers on Nantucket, where I learned  to sail in the inner harbor. My parents and I would walk the old cemetery to view the old headstones of the Folger, Coffin and Macy families. I was told that Macy was the founder of the departent store that bears his name, even though the Macy family no longer owns the business.

           Wikipedia source.        Courtesy of Crackers Nautical News

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Posted by bondoman on Tuesday, February 15, 2011 12:28 AM

My cousin Macy Webster goes back 16 generations on the island.(Nantucket)

Yes they did, Telsono. The IJN was going to rely on long distance seaplanes to patrol most of the Pacific following the defeat of the USN at Pearl Harbor, operating out of the Marshall Islands. The Emily was a very potent machine, armed with 20mms at most of the defensive positions and given a range of + 1200 miles. The US had nothing remotely comparable in the air. But of course they made up for it with the tin can fleet. There was a four stack destroyer/ floatplane tender with a couple of Kingfishers permanently stationed at most of the islands up the chain on that map by March 1942. And by May there was a modern seaplane tender at FFS.

Here's more on FFS.

http://www.radiojerry.com/frigate/

And the Ancients came down that way from Polynesia.

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Posted by bondoman on Tuesday, February 15, 2011 12:24 AM

telsono

Bondoman -

Wasn't French Frigate Shoals supposed to be a re-fueling spot for recon seaplanes over Pearl harbor prior to Midway (?)

On March 3/4 a mission with two H8K Emily flying boats refueled at FFS and proceeded to Oahu, where they dropped bombs and departed by way of the Marshall Islands.

Further research: Operation K.

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, February 14, 2011 7:58 PM

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Posted by telsono on Monday, February 14, 2011 3:56 PM

Bondoman -

Wasn't French Frigate Shoals supposed to be a re-fueling spot for recon seaplanes over Pearl harbor prior to Midway, but one of our destroyers was stationed there. This caused the Japanese submarine charged to do the re-fueling to abort their mission? 

Mike T.

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Posted by bondoman on Monday, February 14, 2011 1:11 PM

Nat Philbrick wrote that bestseller some years ago, very entertaining and informative. Certainly the story of the Essex must have been well known to Melville, writing 30 years later. I seem to remember reading somewhere that whaling ships being rammed by whales wasn't such an unusual thing.

I've got  a friend whose a direct descendant of Jared Coffin, in fact his namesake. A direct ancestor of mine was a prime player in the Globe Mutiny in 1822. If ever in Mass., a trip out to Nantucket and the Historical Association is well worth it.

French Frigate Shoals is where the IJN launched two further attacks from against Pearl Harbor in early 1942.

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Posted by telsono on Monday, February 14, 2011 11:56 AM

That map illustrates one of the most unique features of the Hawaiian Islands. The volcanic hot spot is now on the big island, Hawaii, and a little south east of it. It doesn't move, but the islands do. They, the whole island chain are travelling to the north west due to plate tectonics. The steady erosion of these islands is why the older outer islands crumble to nothing except as foundations for coral reefs. These reefs are beautiful but also treacherous to ships.

Although it is said that this captain's history was a basis for Moby ***, this captain was no Ahab. Melville didn't meet him until years after Moby *** was published. With two vessels sunk from under him, he didn't go back out to sea feeling broken by the experience, instead took meanial jobs, but kept his self esteem.

Mike T.

Beware the hobby that eats.  - Ben Franklin

Do not fear mistakes. You will know failure. Continue to reach out. - Ben Franklin

The U.S. Constitution  doesn't guarantee happiness, only the pursuit of it. You have to catch up with it yourself. - Ben Franklin

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Posted by Borg R3-MC0 on Monday, February 14, 2011 11:41 AM

bondoman

The nannybot is an insult filter only. One of the reasons that this forum is so much more civil than most of the cesspools out there. You can find multiple examples, without too much trouble, of instances where the pergorative gets the axe, but the original meaning is not an issue. I say kudos to FSM for keeping the bad behavior of a few from ruining the pleasure of many. Case in point- the whale had a penis.

I would rahter like to see that people themselves could make a choice to not use these kind of words then a cyber-nanny... but maybe that is to much to ask these days.

Back the the topic, very interesting, Inever knew that there was a "real" Moby D ick.

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Posted by bondoman on Monday, February 14, 2011 11:20 AM

The nannybot is an insult filter only. One of the reasons that this forum is so much more civil than most of the cesspools out there. You can find multiple examples, without too much trouble, of instances where the pergorative gets the axe, but the original meaning is not an issue. I say kudos to FSM for keeping the bad behavior of a few from ruining the pleasure of many. Case in point- the whale had a penis.

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Posted by PritMar on Monday, February 14, 2011 7:05 AM

Are the thought police getting so bad you cannot enter the name of a book in this forum? What happens if someone wants to post something about *** Rutan?

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Posted by shoot&scoot on Monday, February 14, 2011 6:34 AM

Cool story, thanks for sharing.  BTW you can get around the nannybot thusly:  Moby D ick.

                                                                                                    Pat.

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Wreck of the "Moby ***' connection found.
Posted by crackers on Monday, February 14, 2011 1:43 AM

    A fierce bull sperm whale sank the whaling ship ESSEX  under the command of George Pollard that inspired the classic American novel "Moby ***", by Herman Melville. Two years later, on February 11, 1823, a second whaler, THE TWO BROTHERS,  under the command of 32 year old George Pollard, struck a Hawaiian coral reef during a night storm and sank in shallow water. After a harrowing night of anxiety, all survivors rowed to the MARTHA, a second Nantucker whaler that accompanied THE TWO BROTHERS for the Pacific whaling grounds.

     Exactly 188 years later, on the exact day and month of the sinking, marine archaeologists found the remains of Pollard's second vessel at the Paphanaumokuakea Marine National Monument, 600 miles northwest of Honolulu, Hawaii. Among the artifacts recovered, were several harpoons, a blubber hook, try pots where whale blobber was cooked into whale oil, and personal items. All artifacts will be conserved for a whaling museum in Hawaii.

         The whaler ESSEX, under the command of George Pollard, departed Nantucket Island, Massachusetts, in 1819 for a voyage to the South Pacific whaling grounds. On November 20, 1820, the ESSEX was rammed twice by an 80 foot angry bull sperm whale some 2,000 miles west of the western coast of South America. In three whaling boats, 21 survivers made it to Henderson Island, a remote speck of uninhabited land, where the castaways spent a week eating any eatable food in sight. After food was exhausted, the survivors took to their whale boats leaving three of their companions behind to fend for themselves, and headed east for the coast of South America. One by one, some men died and were eaten including Owen Coffin, the young cousin of George Pollard, who was shot and consumed. In all, 7 people were cannibalized. Eventually, one of the whaleboat was sighted and rescued by the Nantucket whaler, DAUPHIN, 95 days after the ESSEX sank . The survivors were so delirious, they were not aware when the DAUPHIN came alongside the drifting whaleboat. The second whaleboat was sighted and rescued by the British merchant brig, INDIAN, 93 days after the ESSEX sank. The third whaleboat made landfall at Valparaiso, Chile, where authorities were informed about the three men stranded on Henderson Island. A rescue vessel saved the three, almost on the verge of death from starvation.

    Desponded over the loss of two ships under his command, George Pollard never returned to sea, but remained on his native Nantucket Island employed in odd jobs. Herman Melville interviewed Pollard in 1852 doing research for his famous novel "Moby ***."  Pollard served as a night watchman until his death in 1870. 

     Story by Rupert Cornwall of The Indepedent.    Courtersy of Crackers Nautical News

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Anthony V. Santos

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