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  • From: Taiwan
Pamir steel hull Plating
Posted by Spelunko Bob on Thursday, March 17, 2011 1:45 AM

Back from a long hiatus.

I am currently building the Heller Pamir at 1:150 scale. I would like to simulate the hull plates for just a bit more detail. I have search but cannot find clear enough photos or plans on what this looked like and at what sizes.

My selected method of doing this will be to tape off half the hull and spray 2 or 3 coats of primer and then take off the tape and prime one more time.

I know at this scale it would not really be visible but I have seen 1:350 scale models with this done and it looks attractive.

So my question is: What would have been the dimensions of these plates in full scale and if possible scaled down to 1:150 scale?

Oh I hope Prof. Tilley will join in on this. You have provided me previously with great information and ideas.

Tags: hull , Pamir , plating

Current build: Heller's Pamir. Oooooh Yeeehhh. Stick out tongue

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  • From: Groton, CT
Posted by warshipguy on Thursday, March 17, 2011 9:20 AM

Hello!

I have the 1/150 Preussen; I will measure the plate detail and get back to you this evening.  One method for simulating plates that will also include some rivet detail is to use copper tape cut to size and run a pattern maker along the edges on the back of the tape. It creates a wonderful rivet pattern.  And, since you would be using actual plates, the plate detail looks more authentic.

Bill Morrison

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    November 2009
  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Friday, March 18, 2011 9:28 AM

Another, cheap method of making hull plates is thin cardboard.  Old IBM punch cards make excellent hull plates.  The cardboard is thin, and covered with a plastic protective coating, so it primes and paints easily. Often many cards have only a small area punched,  and the rest is available to use.

Only problem is they are getting rare.  My stash is dwindling to a couple dozen.  When they are gone I figure I'll have a devil of a time getting more.

They also make great gun shields on smaller scale ships.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by warshipguy on Saturday, March 19, 2011 8:02 AM

Sorry for taking so long to get back.  The hull plates on Preussen measure 1.5 inches by .25 inch.  The copper tape comes in .25 inch width.  It would be very easy to simply cut the tape to the correct length.  Don Stauffer also offers a nice technique.

I would sincerely advise either method over spray paint.

Good luck!

Bill Morrison

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  • From: Carmel, CA
Posted by bondoman on Saturday, March 19, 2011 10:56 PM

warshipguy

Sorry for taking so long to get back.  The hull plates on Preussen measure 1.5 inches by .25 inch.  The copper tape comes in .25 inch width.  It would be very easy to simply cut the tape to the correct length.

http://www.anythinginstainedglass.com/metals/foil.html

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  • From: Taiwan
Posted by Spelunko Bob on Sunday, March 20, 2011 6:05 AM

Thanks all for the advice. I have just figured it out. I will use the flat pieces of the plastic sail styrene. It is very thin.

 

Also if you are interested in the P-line ships have a look at this: amazing stuff. Don't be put off that it is paper. That is what makes this so incredible.

http://www.modelshipworld.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1135&highlight=passat

Cheers

 

Current build: Heller's Pamir. Oooooh Yeeehhh. Stick out tongue

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    September 2005
  • From: Groton, CT
Posted by warshipguy on Sunday, March 20, 2011 7:24 AM

Heller once had a kit of a fictional five-masted barque called Cap Horn that was based on the Preussen kit.  If memory serves, the real Cap Horn was a French four-masted barque.  I am converting it into the well-documented German P-Line five-masted barque Potosi, a barque-rigged half-sister to Preussen. It is coming along nicely!

Bill

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