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  • Member since
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  • From: Carmel, CA
USS Hornet CV-8
Posted by bondoman on Tuesday, May 03, 2011 3:15 PM

I've started a new project; the USS Hornet model at 1/350 by Trumpeter. My first inclination was to just add some PE, a squadron of B-25s and paint her carefully.

Howver as fate would have it, I started reading in other forums that the hull shape was "wrong" and after looking at a number of photos I could see a new project forming.

I'm going to try to scratchbuild the hull below the hangar deck! the most obvious difference is that the ship had a pretty pronounced flare in the hull below the deck, but the kit has big slab sides that go straight up and down to the waterline.

I purchased a drawing of Faired Lines and Molded Offsets from Floating Drydock, and scaled down the sections to make a quick jig. I scrounged up a styrene sign, an old shelf board and some 1/4" molding to make a 3-D template. I'm going to try Balsa Foam, so I bought a couple sheets of 1" and cut it up into blocks. By coincidence each block is exactly three sections, which helps keep things lined up in the jig.

I've experimented with a number of adhesives, and Elmer's is the best.

My next move is to cut the hull at deck level. I've bolted in a stiffener to keep things straight.

 

  • Member since
    March, 2003
  • From: Northern New Jersey
Posted by Tojo72 on Tuesday, May 03, 2011 3:21 PM

Wow,that's some project,I wouldn't even attempt anything like that,looking foward to your progress.

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  • From: Carmel, CA
Posted by bondoman on Wednesday, May 11, 2011 12:27 AM

I've cut the hull off at/below the hangar deck. This was not a problem. First i scribed the cut line at the stem and stern using a height gage. I have a Postit pad that's about 2" thick and I just fold it over to be the correct height (within 0.002).
then I used a single edge razor blade to shear off the remaining bits to be true to the deck level.

The balsa foam "buck" is easy to shape.

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    September, 2005
  • From: Groton, CT
Posted by warshipguy on Thursday, May 12, 2011 9:29 AM

Wow!  Good luck with this project!  I will be watching with a lot of interest!

Bill

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  • From: Bethlehem PA
Posted by the Baron on Thursday, May 12, 2011 11:44 AM

I thought those were blocks of yellow cheddar Wink

Great job!  I never would have thought of that, it's an ambitious undertaking, but your result looks great.

Best regards,

Brad

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Posted by GMorrison on Friday, May 12, 2017 8:47 PM

It's time to try to finish this build. Two moves and six years, I'VE RUN OUT OF EXCUSES.

I think that I made this thing way too complicated. That crazy jig was tossed in the first move, and after the second move the hull sat outside in the garden shed for a year.

But it's a costly kit, I have the PE and extra Mitchells, and I've certainly improved my skills as a modeler.

 

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Posted by PFJN on Friday, May 12, 2017 9:20 PM

Hi,

This looks really interesting.  Can't wait to see how it turns out.  Best of luck.

Pat

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  • From: Bethlehem PA
Posted by the Baron on Saturday, May 13, 2017 6:01 PM

Wait--you used to be bondoman, GM?

The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.

 

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Posted by GMorrison on Saturday, May 13, 2017 11:05 PM

Zip it!

yes and that guy exhibited enough obnoxious behavior that he needed to be reinvented.

 

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    June, 2014
  • From: New Braunfels , Texas
Posted by Tanker - Builder on Sunday, May 14, 2017 8:04 AM

Hi " G "

  This is a new idea from the vault ! I hope you finish it now . I promise , I am still trying with the picture thing . T.B.    P.S  - I see a passenger ship in the left-over parts , do you ?

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    May, 2013
  • From: Indiana, USA
Posted by Greg on Sunday, May 14, 2017 8:19 AM

I was wondering, are we supposed to complain when a person revives his own zombie thread?

Big Smile

 

-Greg

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    September, 2005
  • From: Groton, CT
Posted by warshipguy on Monday, May 15, 2017 8:19 AM

I would love it if GM now revives his old thread about building the 1/400 Heller HMS Illustrious!  Toast

Bill Morrison

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  • From: Willamette Valley, Oregon
Posted by goldhammer on Monday, May 15, 2017 8:50 AM

Greg

I was wondering, are we supposed to complain when a person revives his own zombie thread?

Big Smile

 

 

Now quit that....coffee through the nose is not good for the laptop.

 

GM- will be looking in on this as you progress since I have her older sibling on hold.   Looks nice.

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Posted by GMorrison on Tuesday, May 16, 2017 1:02 AM

There was a big chunk of hangar deck missing. Got it put back together.

Evergreen sells a number of useful scribed siding sheets. Here i used "N Scale passenger siding" which matches the roll-up doors that Trumpeter includes.

I did a layer-over of siding and face vertical.

 

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  • From: Sunny So. Cal... The OC
Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, May 16, 2017 1:08 AM

GMorrison

Zip it!

yes and that guy exhibited enough obnoxious behavior that he needed to be reinvented.

 

 

or does he have multiple personalities and screen names....?

Wink

 

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U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

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  • From: Irmo, South Carolina
Posted by Shipwreck on Wednesday, May 17, 2017 6:01 AM
That is one courageous project; I think it has our attention. I will watch with everyone else. I was scheduled to start my Trumpter CV-8 project last January 2017, but was distracted with a B-26! I am well aware of the hull problem; but it, when ever I start it, will be just fine for me! Good luck Bondman!

On the Bench:

     1/48 Star Wars X-wing

On Deck:

     1/48 P-47D Razorback

     1/48 Nieuport Ni-17

     1/350 USS Hornet CV-8

    

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  • From: Bethlehem PA
Posted by the Baron on Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:07 PM

GMorrison

Zip it!

yes and that guy exhibited enough obnoxious behavior that he needed to be reinvented.

 

Ha! I never even noticed!  I'm not paying attention closely enough.  Well, either way, it's a great thread, and it's great to see you revive it.  I've got builds like this, too, where I got stalled and then the years passed, and I'm only now picking them up again.

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Posted by GMorrison on Wednesday, July 05, 2017 9:42 PM

So much to report, but currently without photo sharing.

I finished the hull shaping and the hard shell over the foam. I would not do it this way again. The finish is too prone to nicks. I would use poplar next time. It would be heavy, but stronger.

Painting has followed. 5-S was difficult to find but Tamiya XF-18 has been a pretty good match.

I used 20-N and 5-N from Model Master. They look fine.

I had a set of Gator masks from back when I bought the kit 7 or so years ago. Two moves, 7 years of hot garage storage.

At first they looked a little yellow and wrinkled.

But with a little TLC I got them to lie down. It helped to cut them up and put on in three sections each side, matching the ends and floating the middle one. With planning at locations where the pattern was full height to the deck, the gaps were easy to bridge with little extra sections of mask cut from the sheet.

I am really impressed with the product. The pattern looks really good.

I definitely would look at their set for CV-9, next.

Ill post more soon, hopefully with pictures.

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  • From: Wyoming Michigan
Posted by ejhammer on Thursday, July 06, 2017 8:06 AM
Gators masks used to do a masking sheet for boot topping as well. I still have some of that sheet. Still works great after 10 or so years.

Completed - USS ESSEX 1/700 Hasegawa Dec 1942, USS Yorktown 1/700 Trumpeter 1943. In The Yards - USS ESSEX 1/700 Hasegawa 1945, USS ESSEX 1/700 Dragon 1944, USS ESSEX 1/700 Trumpeter 1945, USS ESSEX 1/540 Revell (vintage) 1962, USS ESSEX 1/350 Trumpeter 1942, USS ESSEX LHD-2 as commissioned, converted from USS Wasp kit Gallery Models. Plus 35 other plastic and wood ship kits.

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Posted by GMorrison on Thursday, July 06, 2017 3:30 PM

Here's a repost of my images so far.

 

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Posted by GMorrison on Saturday, July 08, 2017 6:15 PM

 

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  • From: Wyoming Michigan
Posted by ejhammer on Saturday, July 08, 2017 7:54 PM
Nice work GM. What are you using for picture hosting? I just got cut off from Photobucket unless I subscribe at a monthly fee. EJ

Completed - USS ESSEX 1/700 Hasegawa Dec 1942, USS Yorktown 1/700 Trumpeter 1943. In The Yards - USS ESSEX 1/700 Hasegawa 1945, USS ESSEX 1/700 Dragon 1944, USS ESSEX 1/700 Trumpeter 1945, USS ESSEX 1/540 Revell (vintage) 1962, USS ESSEX 1/350 Trumpeter 1942, USS ESSEX LHD-2 as commissioned, converted from USS Wasp kit Gallery Models. Plus 35 other plastic and wood ship kits.

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Posted by GMorrison on Saturday, July 08, 2017 10:43 PM

I'm trying a free 30 trial with Fotki. Ukraine based, but I'll take my chances. They've been around since the 90's. Just went pay-to-play two years ago.

No ads.

Fast.

Going to cost $ 4.00 a month for 100 GB once I sign up.

SFSG.

Thanks. The images are a little fuzz because I zoomed in on a sunny day. The model is the better part of 30" long and is very hard to photograph.

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    July, 2014
Posted by Nino on Sunday, July 09, 2017 7:19 AM

Wow!

 Hull looks great. Love your use of a metal Shelf support for keeping things straight.

And thanks for the info on FOTKI.  $4.00 sure beats $40.00.

Wish I had room for 1/350 Ca's, BB's and CV's.  I'm lucky to get the old Box scale kits to fit on a shelf.

     Nino.

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Posted by GMorrison on Monday, July 17, 2017 4:29 PM

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  • From: Wyoming Michigan
Posted by ejhammer on Tuesday, July 18, 2017 10:22 AM
Thanks for the photo info. The paint is coming along nicely. EJ

Completed - USS ESSEX 1/700 Hasegawa Dec 1942, USS Yorktown 1/700 Trumpeter 1943. In The Yards - USS ESSEX 1/700 Hasegawa 1945, USS ESSEX 1/700 Dragon 1944, USS ESSEX 1/700 Trumpeter 1945, USS ESSEX 1/540 Revell (vintage) 1962, USS ESSEX 1/350 Trumpeter 1942, USS ESSEX LHD-2 as commissioned, converted from USS Wasp kit Gallery Models. Plus 35 other plastic and wood ship kits.

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    September, 2006
  • From: Bethlehem PA
Posted by the Baron on Tuesday, July 18, 2017 11:53 AM

Great progress, GM!  I admire your work, I don't think I could do this, I don't have that much patience.

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