1/144 Trumpy "Gato" finished

Cool...how long is that MOJO?

10 inches!

Oh wait, you mean the sub?

26+half inches........pretty big!

Abbott & Costello,  Martin & Lewis, Penn & Teller, and now presenting:  Fermis & Manstein !

Wabashwheels

Abbott & Costello,  Martin & Lewis, Penn & Teller, and now presenting:  Fermis & Manstein !

Am just about to start the same kit myself fermis...will be watching this one closely...

Finally got a bit of bench time!!! Put in over 60 hours at work this past week.......SUCK!!!!!

Anyway, the hull and deck are now one solid piece. Took a lot of grinding and sanding to smooth things out.

The PE set has rails for the tower, but they just didn't look right, and the size was off. I used the kit "uprights" and stretched sprue to simulate the heavy gauge wire rails. I also added the door up front (sheet styrene).

Hopefully, I'll get a rain day or two this week, so I can get more bench time!

Looking good....I think I see some PE on the sail---is that a radar?  Also, are you gonna leave those other doors open on the sail???

The side openings into the fairwater are normally open to the sea that's also where some of the air get's to the Main Induction although some boats have the aft end of the fairwater perferated IIRC there is also some storage in there, only museum boats have doors to keep the public out, Balao's have one opening on the front port side where an escape trunk is located, the forward escape trunk (forward torpedo room) is accessed through the hatch on the forward deck of through the rectangular opening in the deck next to the hatch that leads to the side hatch of the trunk.

The door on the front of the fairwater is correct.

If you are interested here is a link to the operating manual for a Fleet Type Submarine, there are also additional System manuals here.

If you care to look at images of any particular boat you may find them at NavSource.

Interesting, so the doors should be open?

Correct, no doors.

Every model I ever see shows 'em modeled closed---I guess Trump got it right when they left off doors in the parts count!

A few years ago I think on another forum someone posted pictures of the USS Silversides showing inside the openings.

You could see the aft end of the con tower cylinder and the aft wall was a perforated partition blocking off access to the main induction, there where a few steps down to decking over the main hull.

What's interesting is the con tower cylinders, some boats had convex ends where others had concave, the concave  version kinda seems like a bad idea because of the water pressure.

fermis you do realise that this is the Navy not the Army or the Airforce right?

here are some naval terms

Hatches (Doors)

Bulkheads (Walls)

Scuttlebutt (Watercooler)

Head (Bathroom)

Compartments (Corridors or rooms)

fermis

Finally got a bit of bench time!!! Put in over 60 hours at work this past week.......SUCK!!!!!

Anyway, the hull and deck are now one solid piece. Took a lot of grinding and sanding to smooth things out.

The PE set has rails for the tower, but they just didn't look right, and the size was off. I used the kit "uprights" and stretched sprue to simulate the heavy gauge wire rails. I also added the door up front (sheet styrene).

Hopefully, I'll get a rain day or two this week, so I can get more bench time!

 

Mikeym_us

fermis you do realise that this is the Navy not the Army or the Airforce right?

here are some naval terms

Hatches (Doors)

Bulkheads (Walls)

Scuttlebutt (Watercooler)

Head (Bathroom)

Compartments (Corridors or rooms) 

 

I'm a simple man!

 Finally got a rain day, with nothing to do but build (mostly).

I made the deck rails with stretched sprue.....took FOREVER!!!

Painted with MM enamels, also took forever. After a few minutes, the compressor would heat up and start squirting water. So, I could only spray for a few minutes at a time. Thanks to my swift, catlike reflexes, the trigger was off before any paint got on top of the water. No blemishes!

The tower is just sitting, not glued yet.

Never thought you would use a Scuttlebutt as a air compressor. LOL

Get a water trap man it will keep you from treading water. LOL sorry just had to put that joke out there.

fermis

Mikeym_us:

fermis you do realise that this is the Navy not the Army or the Airforce right?

here are some naval terms

Hatches (Doors)

Bulkheads (Walls)

Scuttlebutt (Watercooler)

Head (Bathroom)

Compartments (Corridors or rooms) 

 

 

I'm a simple man!

 

 Finally got a rain day, with nothing to do but build (mostly).

I made the deck rails with stretched sprue.....took FOREVER!!!

Painted with MM enamels, also took forever. After a few minutes, the compressor would heat up and start squirting water. So, I could only spray for a few minutes at a time. Thanks to my swift, catlike reflexes, the trigger was off before any paint got on top of the water. No blemishes!

The tower is just sitting, not glued yet.

Mikeym_us

Never thought you would use a Scuttlebutt as a air compressor. LOL

Get a water trap man it will keep you from treading water. LOL sorry just had to put that joke out there.

It's got one. I didn't have any problems till the humidity came up this spring.

Get a bigger water trap or try seeing if you can attach a hose to the trap to draw off the water.

fermis

Mikeym_us:

Never thought you would use a Scuttlebutt as a air compressor. LOL

Get a water trap man it will keep you from treading water. LOL sorry just had to put that joke out there.

 

It's got one. I didn't have any problems till the humidity came up this spring.

I thought these MOJO's had deck guns???

I think the early fit Gato's didn't have deck guns only the AA guns on the tower. I believe the 2nd fitting saw the deck guns getting installed after problems arose with the Torpedos.

Mikeym_us

I think the early fit Gato's didn't have deck guns only the AA guns on the tower. I believe the 2nd fitting saw the deck guns getting installed after problems arose with the Torpedos.

Manstein's revenge

Mikeym_us:

I think the early fit Gato's didn't have deck guns only the AA guns on the tower. I believe the 2nd fitting saw the deck guns getting installed after problems arose with the Torpedos.

 

Well this one has NONE!

I never saw the word "FINISHED" , in my post!

Still trying to figure out which ones I wanna use.

fermis

Mikeym_us:

fermis you do realise that this is the Navy not the Army or the Airforce right?

here are some naval terms

Hatches (Doors)

Bulkheads (Walls)

Scuttlebutt (Watercooler)

Head (Bathroom)

Compartments (Corridors or rooms) 

 

 

I'm a simple man!

 

 Finally got a rain day, with nothing to do but build (mostly).

I made the deck rails with stretched sprue.....took FOREVER!!!

Painted with MM enamels, also took forever. After a few minutes, the compressor would heat up and start squirting water. So, I could only spray for a few minutes at a time. Thanks to my swift, catlike reflexes, the trigger was off before any paint got on top of the water. No blemishes!

The tower is just sitting, not glued yet.

In November 1944 the USS Gato had a 4" deck gun forward of the fairwater before that dat it was probably a 3".

Some photos can be found it Navsource.

No 5 inch?

Seems like it was the class before Gato that had the greatest range of deck guns, with a 3 to 5" bore rifle and a 40mm on either end of the conning tower (it's not a sail until the control room moves into the main hull).

If memory serves, the heaviest-armed US sub was USS Nautilus, which sported a pair of 5" rifles fore and aft of the conning tower.  The CO having experimented with a number of other arrangements, first.Nautilus also executed a bunch of covert insertion missions, too, and was in a number of near-shore actions.

The original design concept for a fleet submarine was as a submersible destroyer, a "stealth" DD if you will, so the deck gun was considered as important as the torpedo tubes, especially so against "soft" targets like unescorted merchant shipping.

You're close, CapnMac82 - Nautilus, Narwal and Argonaut all sported a pair of 6"/53 deck guns.  Quite the wallop for a pigboat, but then, those three handled like pigs too,

I think this is one of those 5 inchers...