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Inside the Mothball Fleet

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Inside the Mothball Fleet
Posted by DoogsATX on Tuesday, June 14, 2011 3:46 PM

Not much a ship builder, but I figured those who are might be interested in some gorgeous photography of the ships of the mothball fleet at Suisun Bay:

http://scotthaefner.com/beyond/mothball-fleet-ghost-ships/

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Posted by TD4438 on Tuesday, June 14, 2011 5:19 PM

That was some good stuff.Urban exploring on the high seas.

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Posted by Milairjunkie on Tuesday, June 14, 2011 6:59 PM

Ditto

Very interesting, the sort of think that I get seriously sidetracked on - Cheers!

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Wednesday, June 15, 2011 3:30 PM

Well, I have to admit some bias, since they are under the impression one can smell PCBs . . .

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Posted by subfixer on Wednesday, June 15, 2011 9:45 PM

CapnMac82

Well, I have to admit some bias, since they are under the impression one can smell PCBs . . .

  Yeah, I got a chuckle out of that one, too. Most of what you smell on a mothballed ship is paint, lube oils and preservatives, besides mustiness. But a well maintained, low humidity atmosphere will keep even that down to a minimum.

  On a side note concerning PCBs; after I got out of the Navy and was starting out my Civil Service apprenticeship as a high voltage electrician, the journeymen mechanics I was working with told me how they would clean their hands and paint brushes with the insulating oil inside the transformers that they were doing maintenance and preservation on. They had been doing so for years until some EPA guys in full protective gear and airfed respirators came in and drained all of these same transformformers and refilled them with another type. When my mechanics asked them what they were doing they replied that the old insulating oil was pure PCB and was super carcinogenic and had to be disposed of. They said that they just looked down at their hands and cringed. Luckily for me it happened about six months before I started there. I also just avoided the asbestos exposure hazard by just about the same time margin later on.

 

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Posted by bondoman on Thursday, June 16, 2011 1:59 AM

PCB's will stick to you though. And when they burn there's an acrid and oily smoke. We had a pair of transformer vault fires in buildings I was on the design of. I was doling out drycleaning money to "bystanders" for months.

It's a strange thing how we have been so unaware of toxics. We are finding out that there's a *** cancer hot spot in the next town to the north, where there's been a styrofoam cup factory for decades. We all hope this gets investigated. Wife and daughter, after all.

In eighth grade shop circa 1968 we had a project making hot plates. It involved being issued a 2' x 2' piece of 1/4" thick asbestos board, the kind plumbers used to make flues out of, like Transite.

So we all stood in line to have our turn at the band saw to cut the thing up into a square base and a series of strips. Then off to the drill press to make a row of holes for the bolts.

So I'm cutting up my board and the saw begins to chatter.

"Boy! Don't you know how to cut asbestos board? Let me show you how!". Mr. Costarella was also a chain smoker, but he passed away of lung cancer at the age of 68.

I've been out to Suisun a few times. There's a writer for the San Francisco Chronicle named Carl Nolte who follows these things. look him up on sfgate.com. He writes great articles.

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Posted by mfsob on Thursday, June 16, 2011 2:21 PM

Nice, evocative photos ... the lads are just lucky they didn't get machine gunned by some over-eager security pukes.

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Posted by Jeff_G on Thursday, June 16, 2011 2:58 PM

Thanks for posting that, DoogsATX.  I grew up in Martinez just across the channel from those ships, so this is a real treat for me.  My buddies and I used to fantasize aoubt getting aboard those ships, but we never had the guts to try anything.  It was cool to see how these guys did it.  It's risky business!

I'm also an avid sea kayaker.  Some kayak friends paddled out to see them a couple years ago, but were warned off pretty quick.  I'm impressed these guys got as far as they did.

--Jeff

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Posted by AndrewGorman on Friday, July 1, 2011 12:17 AM

PCBs have a very distinctive smell.  Remember carbonless copy paper?  That's the stuff.  The human nose is pretty effective at  detecting a lot of things down to the parts per million level. .  Chuckle away and live in your fantasy land.

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Posted by subfixer on Friday, July 1, 2011 3:38 AM

I'm chuckling at you right now.

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Posted by MiG-29 on Sunday, July 3, 2011 7:10 PM

wow! awesome photos. thanks for sharing

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