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CHARLES W: MORGAN (Wahaling ship) 1841 1/110

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Posted by alexander47 on Saturday, July 2, 2011 4:34 AM

To

Don 

Capnma

The writing theses are some theoretical and practical matter for purists

But I like to modify and add some in a creative components  and change some colors to my taste

A.Alexandre

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Posted by alexander47 on Saturday, July 2, 2011 4:20 AM

 

 

 

 

Marcus

 

 The sail that is next to the MWF is the Portuguese Frigate D. Fernando II e Glória

If you want to see is in my post of 6/22/2011 or /forums/t/138873.aspx

 

For those who do not know, I usually add some components and change a few colors to my taste that I build in kits

A.Alexandre

 

 

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Friday, July 1, 2011 3:55 PM

Don Stauffer

 

 

 

The slipperyness of painted decks is seldom mentioned, but indeed a serious problem on a ship.  Now adays we have non-slip paint.  Not sure when that caught on, but was relatively recently- I am guessing with advent of iron and steel ships/boats.

Sounds very reasonable.  Wooden decks trod with horn-hard calloused feet only needed a bit of sand of added traction.

Sheet iron, steel, decks are not very compatible with bare feet.  And adding sand just added another level of material to skid upon, since the sand could not "dig into" the metal deck.  Which was reason to cover that deck in wood or linoleum or the like.

Non-skid paint making it possible to skip the overhead/expense of covering an entire deck.

And going to sea will make a person pragmatic.

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Friday, July 1, 2011 9:12 AM

amphib

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The oiled wood or teak makes sense. I have encountered nothing more slippery than a smooth painted deck with water on it. The Nantucket sea captains were known for their frugality. If they could avoid painting the decks they would have.

Hope thie helps

Amphib

The slipperyness of painted decks is seldom mentioned, but indeed a serious problem on a ship.  Now adays we have non-slip paint.  Not sure when that caught on, but was relatively recently- I am guessing with advent of iron and steel ships/boats.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by Marcus.K. on Friday, July 1, 2011 8:35 AM

Beautiful model! Well done!

What is the big ship aside CWM in the first picture?

Concerning the color of wood and decks - I think I have been reading a thousand posts discussing which color is "right" and which is "wrong". Tongue Tied .. ignoring the fact, that wood looks different depending on wether its wet, try, old, new, ...

I learned that decks almost daily were "whitened" or "holy stoned"  - which is a procedure in which the sailors - on their knees - are almost sanding the deck with "the holy stone". And a lot of water had to be used to wash away the stock removal. Another reason for the intensive use of water during the "cleaning" operation was caused by the need to keep the wood in a certain dampness. The wood - if drying - would shrink and open gaps. To keep it within a cerain level of "humitiy" would extend the ships lifetime - and theirfor the sailors lifetime ;-)

I too started the model - and I will try to test a method to bring out the (plasic-imitation) wood which I was learning from Les Wilkins "How to build a Plastic Model Ship". I hope it works out - have to learn how to do it. Although I know that grain in 1/110 is not realistic I feel that it is important to let it recognizable (is this a real word?) since it helps to let the viewer have the impression to look at a real wooden building - and not a piece of plastic.

I love to see this kit build. There are so many HMS Victory´s and Soleil Royals out there in the world wide web - and so few American sailors as CWM or the USS Constitution in it´s different kits.

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Posted by alexander47 on Sunday, June 26, 2011 7:14 AM

AHere is the color of my deck Morgan with natural light!

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Posted by amphib on Saturday, June 25, 2011 12:53 PM

I have just got back form spending an entire day at the annual wooden boat show at Mystic. With your question in mind I paid particular attention to the decks of the various ships and boats. The Morgan has oiled wood decks - probably southern yellow pine. The schooner Armistad has an unfinished teak deck. The schooner Dunton and various fishing boats have oiled wood decks. Many of the pleasure boats have unfinished teak.

The oiled wood or teak makes sense. I have encountered nothing more slippery than a smooth painted deck with water on it. The Nantucket sea captains were known for their frugality. If they could avoid painting the decks they would have.

As for color, the teak decks have turned a light gray. Depending on how recently they were oiled, the oiled decks vary in color from almost black to a medium gray. The Morgan's deck varies in color with some ares dark and some light.

Hope thie helps

Amphib

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Posted by alexander47 on Friday, June 24, 2011 10:38 AM

The color is a ligth gray is lighter than the picture shows

The kit advised (sandy yellow mat RAL 1024)

I chose this color and brightness for reasons of reliability to the reality (no new paint wear)

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Posted by Billyboy on Thursday, June 23, 2011 7:49 AM

Never thought about the effects of spillage, but good point. I wa referring more to painting the decks rather than maintaining bare wood. It was a common in the 19th+20th century on British working boats, for labour saving reasons more than anything. See below picture.

http://www.greta1892.co.uk/contents/media/l_40600009.jpg

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Wednesday, June 22, 2011 3:16 PM

Billyboy
I like the sheen you've got to the painted decks. I know little about American Whalers- was this a common feature of the type?

That's an interesting question.  It's certain that there was some 'spillage' in casking up the rendered oil.  An oiled deck would be water-repellant, too.  Would not be a stretch to imagine that some ship-masters might have called for some oil on the decks when they were scrubbed.

I shot three rolls of film in my one visit to Mystic Seaport in August 1980; sadly there was a problem when they were developed and all were blank.  And now, thirty-one years' later, I've only the vaguest recollection of the appearance of Morgan's main deck.  One too many tall ships' decks in my head, too, from Star of India to Elissa.

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Posted by alexander47 on Wednesday, June 22, 2011 10:44 AM

Yes all own browser in Pacific, Indian and south Atlantic to bring oil and whale bones were of this type with the furnace, balcony with 3 masts

The south of the Atlantic, some had only two masts

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Posted by Billyboy on Wednesday, June 22, 2011 5:34 AM

Nicely finished model, I like the sheen you've got to the painted decks. I know little about American Whalers- was this a common feature of the type?

Will

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Posted by alexander47 on Wednesday, June 22, 2011 5:19 AM

Unfortunately I never had the opportunity to see Morgan, but I was in Portsmouth in 1968 to visit Victory

 Now I'm far from Mystic in Loures Portugal

Good use of the party

A.Alexandre

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Posted by ikar01 on Tuesday, June 21, 2011 8:38 PM

If you're ever in the area you should go to Mystic and see the Morgan.  They had the ship from the Tea Party across the dock.along with a couple others.

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Posted by alexander47 on Monday, June 20, 2011 7:25 AM

The simulation of the mouths of fire doors were a very effective because this ship was often the target of attempted attacks by pirates and even cannibals in the Indian Ocean

But what I impresión is the ability capture , about 8.661.700 liters of oil and 69 ton of whale, bones in just 40 trips that ship with 30 men aboard

Not forgetting that at the time there were 650 to 700 whaling ships

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Posted by ikar01 on Sunday, June 19, 2011 10:00 PM

They never said anything about smuggling during the tour.  The gunports were painted on to give the appearance of a warship and detr others from trying to take her cargo.

 

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Posted by alexander47 on Saturday, June 18, 2011 4:06 PM

 There are reports that this ship smuggling, refugees and migrants adjusted

The ship was towed to Mystic from Roundn Hill in November 1941 and became a museum ship

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Posted by ikar01 on Saturday, June 18, 2011 11:20 AM

I've been on that ship.  I was taken to Mystic back in the late 60s by some friends of the family.  At that time it had fake gun ports painted on its side against a white band.  It's smaller that you would think and at the time it still smelled from its work load.

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Posted by alexander47 on Saturday, June 18, 2011 10:13 AM

E. Von

Is not cool to have scratched  whals these days

 But in the early XIX century whale oil was the energy source for lighting needs

A.Alexandre

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, June 17, 2011 4:59 PM

Nice...woulda been cool to have scratched a couple of humpback whale carcasses being sliced up along side her...

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Posted by scottrc on Friday, June 17, 2011 3:53 PM

Looks goodWink

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Posted by alexander47 on Friday, June 17, 2011 12:57 PM

Yes

Revell 5094

A.Alexandre

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Posted by nfafan on Friday, June 17, 2011 12:36 PM

Can you tell us what brand of kit is this - Revell?

Thanks!

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CHARLES W: MORGAN (Wahaling ship) 1841 1/110
Posted by alexander47 on Friday, June 17, 2011 7:55 AM

CHARLES W. M. The best whale hunter and transformer oil from 1841 to 1863

Modelo / PS Plastic

Scale:1/110

400mm

271 parts

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