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tying the shrouds
Posted by Spelunko Bob on Monday, August 15, 2011 12:25 AM

Ship Pamir: 1:150

As subject says. When I want to tie them to the turnbuckles, there is no knot used on the real ships. But I can't seem how to replicate this on a model. How would you keep the line together after attaching to turnbuckle?

 

Current build: Heller's Pamir. Oooooh Yeeehhh. Stick out tongue

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Posted by Spelunko Bob on Monday, August 15, 2011 7:41 AM

What I am trying to get at is how to keep the shroud line tight and then seize the shroud. Do you glue the line after threading through turnbuckle? Tie a knot?

 

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Posted by warshipguy on Monday, August 15, 2011 7:59 AM

Bob,

I either turn the end of the shroud back onto itself and tie it into place using another line (seizing) (larger scales), or simply tie a knot (smaller scales).

Bill

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Posted by RedCorvette on Monday, August 15, 2011 8:07 AM

I haven't modeled ships with turnbuckles, but when seizing shrouds to deadeyes I use a small alligator clip mounted on a 'third hand' stand to keep the shroud snug while I seize it at the deadeye.

Mark

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Monday, August 15, 2011 8:24 AM

A turnbuckle is very small in 1:150. In addition to the knots mentioned, another technique in that scale is to use a toothpick to put two "bumps" of white glue on the shroud and paint the bumps and the thread in between with steel color.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by Spelunko Bob on Monday, August 15, 2011 6:20 PM

These are some good ideas.

At such a small scale, I may get away with glue, but will it hold?

Or, an idea: what about creating 3 knots on the shroud where the sieves would be and paint those white? Would that look realistic or would the knows be to "fat" for their purpose as sieves?

 

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Posted by Billyboy on Tuesday, August 16, 2011 7:42 AM

Could you run the shroud all the way down to the hull and secure it there. If you slide a section of fine tube over the lower part of the shroud before you secure it, that could represent a turnbuckle in this scale? You could add some dummy D-shackles to detail them? It was quite common practice to parcel the turnbuckles, so you could turn that to your favour too. I admit it would not be as effective as seperate fitting, but it's about as simple a solution my mind can come up with.

Will

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