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I have a USS Nimitz 1/350 from Trumpy for over a year. It was originally purchased as a long winter project (as our Minnesota winters). But I don't have a spray booth and painting the mayor parts inside the house doesn't seem like a good idea. Darn it, I had to wet sand those parts in my bathtub So I started to paint the large parts last week. They all fit like puzzle parts, nice and tight. After seeing how well these parts fit, I decided to detail a bit the hangar deck. I wont have to glue the upper deck to show what's inside.
I don't usually detail parts that will be sealed and not be seen anymore. Life is short, too many exiting subjects, little building time. But that's my opinion, mileage may vary.
What the color used on the hangar walls? I can find any pictures on the web for reference. I already have a plan for lighting up the deck, it won't look like a bear cave
Glass panes in the island? Do they have a green tint or am I seeing things?
Thanks in advance for your usual help guys.
El Taino,
Good Luck on your Nimitz.
Hanger bay bulkheads on US Carriers are painted white from about 2/3s of the way up from the deck completely up through the overhead to the other side. From that point down they are painted a dark gray to the deck level.
Chck out news.navy.mil for the photo gallery. You'll find more reference shots than you'll need.
Mike
"Grumman on a Navy Airplane is like Sterling on Silver."
The pilot house, flag bridge and pri-fly all have a green tint. But it is hard to see if the light isn't just right. You are safe to paint them a glossy black.
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Tamiya clear green is good stuff, it takes a bunch of coats but it looks right. Just don't put on too much or you might hit a bridge.
The old and famous CVN-65 by Aurora had green plastic bridge glass.
I agree with Sub that from the outside black is best.
Thank you all guys for your helpful replies. I will give that site a check asap. My LHS has on the Plastruct and Evergreen section these thin (as thin as printer paper and almost A4 size) clear colored plastic sheets in various colors including green ($1.49 ea). Now, bear with me, when you guys say black from the outside, I'm not really sure what you mean
El Taino Now, bear with me, when you guys say black from the outside, I'm not really sure what you mean
Now, bear with me, when you guys say black from the outside, I'm not really sure what you mean
Think of a car in the daytime with a medium tint on the glass, it is hard to see the interior. A ship is the same way, but since most of the interior is deeper than what a car's interior is, it is very difficult to see inside. I use a black Sharpie on my pilot house windows (probably why I couldn't see the Oakland Bay Bridge, wiseguy bondo; but that is a different story) and other exterior glass. If you do decide to use clear green plastic, be aware that the tint on these windows is fairly light, not a dark forest green. If I was going to try this, I would do the glass in black, then try a coat or two of clear green on top. That way, you might get a little green reflection when the light hit it right.
The actual glass is thick, about two inches and is designed to resist (from what I was told back in my Navy days) a 50 caliber round and is considered armored glass. I can remember when a guy, who was doing paint removal on the signal bridge above the navigation bridge, dropped a chipping hammer on one of the upper panes and it cracked the outer veneer. Replacing that piece of glass (not including labor) back in 1975 was over $3000.
Actually what you want to do, depending on if you have any depth in those island bridge ares is to paint the INSIDE areas a light to medium gray-the bulkheads and overhead were painted white, then possibly using two layers of the thin plastic sheet, but make it blue, NOT GREEN. Remember, their looking out over the water during all flight ops, and the blue tint gives better contrst to clouds and the sky in general, so they can see the aircraft in the air. It also produces less eye-strain than a green tint would. As to the hanger deck, from about 3 1/2 ft-4 ft above the floor, to the over head, and down to the other wall at the same hieght, was white. The wall, depending on the ship and the coomand structure onboard, could be anything from a dark gray to a medium blue color. The deck would be in a VERY dark gray, as it eas covered in a material called 'non-skid', to do just what it sounds like. This material also covered the entire flight deck surface as well. Having been on a carrier (CVN-65 Enterprise) for two years, those are my impressions.
Hi there,
do a search on my username, i just posted pics from cvn-72, the USS Abraham Lincoln, the Nimitz younger sister. There are lots of hanger deck and island pics for you. The island windows do have a green tint to them. There is an older thread that I started for a WIP Enterprise which is still in pretty much the same shape, you'll see hanger deck pics there including lighting with micro led's.
The bulkheads and overhead inside the island structure are a light gray overall. Note that there is really no evidence of a green tint in the window glass.
Even in this somewhat overexposed shot, it is diificult to see into the pilot house. The only thing that is really visible are the flourescent overhead lights which are turned on during daylight hours. Which is why I would save myself a lot of grief and paint the windows black.
The hangar deck info given above is applicable to all modern CVs.
How many squids does it take to show a pretty AF Staff Sergeant how to drive a boat?
I've also used a mix of Dark Sea Blue and black, just to add a little color to what would be a reflected image of the sea.
bondoman How many squids does it take to show a pretty AF Staff Sergeant how to drive a boat?
The grinning doofus on the left with the pen is the only one that doesn't need to be there (probably a quartermaster). The other two are the lee helmsman (sound powered phones) and the helmsman who will bite the bullet if he lets ol' Sarge there hit a bridge in SF Bay.
bondoman: Thanks so much for the picture, now I get it.
subfixer: If the glass panes are that thick and it is laminated, it usually gets this green tint look depending on the angle at which we look at it. Well, I might be wrong, but at least that's how the bullet proof glass on the cashier deck in gas stations from my country looks like.
On the second picture, again I might be wrong. But I kinda notice a rolled greenish shade. Having the sun in the horizon so low, I can only guess they have to use some sort of shading. Could this be the mysterious green?
Plasticcutter and Dogbert, thanks so much for the input. You guys have been of great help.
One final question (for now), where do you guys find those brass fittings to display your ships?
Those are good pictures for you, El T. You'll just have to decide how you want to go. IMO modeling is more about effect than accuracy. You mentioned a removable flight deck? Can you have a removable flag bridge? Then you could detail the innards in the island "to town". I actually think that would be very nice.
A couple of those pictures have what looks like green window shades either at the top or bottom of the windows.
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