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H.M.S Victory Rigging

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  • Member since
    November 2010
Posted by CoreTech on Friday, September 2, 2011 3:33 AM

sorry for the delay of the pictures,this because of personal issues. A quick report,i found a site with photos from a book i believe where the writer (probably the writer) have drawn diagrams of the individual "categories" of rigging,for example,fore main stay and preventer stay,and describes how they are fastened to the masts or yards.i have found these extremely useful and I'm finally,and for the first time excited to start rigging,but this will have to wait until me and dad have finished my rope maker,wich will probably not be used very much for victory,but me and my girlfriends project this fall and future projects.

  • Member since
    November 2009
  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Tuesday, August 30, 2011 9:05 AM

Pawel

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The black lines. And I read they should actually be more tan (dark) than black.

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Paweł

I visited the Brig Niagara a couple of years ago when it visited Duluth.  The standing rigging was very black. I asked one of the crew about this, since there had been a discussion about pitch being brown.  She said when they first tarred the standing rigging it was a dark brown, but  within a short time in the sun it turned black.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

  • Member since
    December 2002
  • From: Lyons Colorado, USA
Posted by Ray Marotta on Tuesday, August 30, 2011 4:50 AM

CoreTech

just looking at the lines i believe they are used to turn the yards in the direction of the wind if that helps to identify them? i guess ill go for option 2 or 3 then,thanks for the tip,i've made that mistake before. not changing something because of laziness and later regretting it. thanks for your help! pics will be up when i come home.

I believe those lines are called "Braces".  Not 100% certain, though.

Good luck with your Victory

Ray

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  • Member since
    November 2010
Posted by CoreTech on Tuesday, August 30, 2011 3:51 AM

just looking at the lines i believe they are used to turn the yards in the direction of the wind if that helps to identify them? i guess ill go for option 2 or 3 then,thanks for the tip,i've made that mistake before. not changing something because of laziness and later regretting it. thanks for your help! pics will be up when i come home.

  • Member since
    May 2009
  • From: Poland
Posted by Pawel on Tuesday, August 30, 2011 2:24 AM

Howdy Rasmus!

It sure helps to know the terms for all those "strings" and "rags" of the ship. I like to get to know them, had to learn them in three languages now (Polish, German and English!). Fun! So the opposite ro the running rigging would be the standing rigging if I recall correctly. The black lines. And I read they should actually be more tan (dark) than black. So then the lines going mast to mast are called stays, if I'm not mistaken. It would help If you found out the name of the lines you have problem with. Anyhow, my advice would be first - to find out how the ship works and try to show that in your model. Every line is there for a purpose, and if you don't understand it, it's easy to make a mistake and model BS. Also, if you notice an error, or something doesn't look right for you, by any means correct it, even if it means going backwards a step or two (tough decision!), because if you don't you'll probably regret it later. My third tip would be to not hurry glueing down parts - this way it's easier to take those steps back, and a ship is very complicated, so you're sure to do some mistakes on your way. Hope it helps, good luck with your project

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

www.vietnam.net.pl

  • Member since
    November 2010
H.M.S Victory Rigging
Posted by CoreTech on Monday, August 29, 2011 11:45 PM

hi again fine scale!
before i say anything else,if you think starting this many threads for one purpose,please tell and i will stop.
now,after my girlfriend left to go back home 40 metric miles up the country 2 weeks ago,there hasn't been any real modeling activity,but when she was here,oh god darn the build went fast,all main sails are up,all royals are done and 4 stun sails arein place. 5 and 6 coming up this week. i have repainted the hull white instead of the copper plates,sanding is still to be done if i decide to leave it white.detailed painting on the gallery and gun ports,check.and much more,you get the idea.but as usual,i come to a problem and are screaming for other peoples opinion,so,i need your help.this time its rigging. the lines going from the uttermost edge of the yards horizontally to the masts...well i discovered they aren't really going to the masts,they are tied up to the black lines going from mast to mast...dont remember the opposite to running rigging lines. and also theres lots of blocks involved.so i have 3 options.
1. to leave the running rigging from the yards as they are,tied to the mast.
2.do they lines over again and tying them to the black lines
3.same as 2+ adding blocks for the maximum reality effect (weird expression...)
i hope you can help me,thanks in advance
//
Rasmus 

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