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Posted by sumter III on Wednesday, October 12, 2011 5:35 PM

Details to be released this weekend on Tamiya website. http://www.tamiya.com/english/products/78025yamato/index.htm

It will have a waterline and full hull option...

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, October 12, 2011 12:58 PM

Wow, thanks for that head's up Ken. Spectacular kit with three detail sets thrown in and 30 percent off!

A little rich for me but good gosh I'm tempted. Angel

Edit: On second thought I expect S&H to the States will be more than I'd save though...

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by kenjitak on Tuesday, October 11, 2011 4:23 PM

Tamiya is coming out with a new, retool of the Yamato in 1/350 due in November with a bunch of upgrade parts to be released with it. Unfortunately I just got the Musashi when I was recently in Japan along with a Lion Roar upgrade kit. It will be interesting to see the response this new update kit gets.

http://www.hlj.com/product/TAMSP-04

Ken

Ken

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Posted by DoogsATX on Tuesday, October 11, 2011 9:12 AM

Yeah, the New Jersey and Big E are some of the few kits that remain from my childhood. They and the other "previous" builds don't get featured on my site (which is devoted to the experience of coming back to modeling!). But the ones that escaped firebombing and flamethrower attacks are sitting safe and neglected on some shelves at my parents' house. Had my mom grab a few pictures awhile back that you can see HERE.

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

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Posted by keilau on Tuesday, October 11, 2011 5:02 AM

DoogsATX

 Gamera:

Doogs: Awesome, I'll be looking forward to seeing photos of her! I have a feeling you're not going to have much time to devote to your upcoming BT-7 though WinkOops

 

Right now I'm thinking about a winter kick-off. Once the move's complete and the bench is back up and running (I'm shooting for Thanksgiving),

Doogs, I always enjoy your web site. I have not notice the New Jersey and Enterprise before. They look beautiful to me. Really looking forward to see your next 1:350 ship. 

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Posted by Gamera on Monday, October 10, 2011 12:37 PM

Sounds like some really cool stuff Doogs, I love Yellow Wings and am looking forward to the Wildcat. And the tanks are pretty cool too.

Went over to the Great Models website and I think you must have bought the last 'North Carolina' kit since they're listing it as out of stock. Still, I really don't need to add anything to the stash right now, nothing......

Do not lead me into temptation for I shall find it on my own... Angel

I've got a nice kit of the IJN cruiser 'Nachi' and the I-19 (which torpeteoed (sp???) the USS NC) that I can build if I ever get back into a ship mood.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by DoogsATX on Monday, October 10, 2011 9:41 AM

Gamera

Doogs: Awesome, I'll be looking forward to seeing photos of her! I have a feeling you're not going to have much time to devote to your upcoming BT-7 though WinkOops

Right now I'm thinking about a winter kick-off. Once the move's complete and the bench is back up and running (I'm shooting for Thanksgiving), I'll have at least six tanks waiting for paint. They'll probably be rolling off the line over the next year (though honestly I think the M4A4 might be a shelf queen for a while. That kit and I did not get along).

Then I've got an F4F-3 Wildcat I'm planning on starting in December to mark the 70th anniversary of Pearl Harbor/Wake Island (I'm planning on the Yellow Wings "Wake Island Wildcats" markings and depicting one of the last two operational Wakecats).

But after that. Or maybe concurrent. Just need to make sure I've got a good place to store the hull in between work sessions.

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

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Posted by mfsob on Monday, October 10, 2011 8:39 AM

ANY ship model is a good ship model, Full speed ahead!

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Posted by Gamera on Monday, October 10, 2011 8:35 AM

Doogs: Awesome, I'll be looking forward to seeing photos of her! I have a feeling you're not going to have much time to devote to your upcoming BT-7 though WinkOops

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by bondoman on Sunday, October 9, 2011 10:07 PM

warshipguy

Bondoman,

I certainly meant no offense; indeed, I sincerely apologise if I gave it.  But, I learned a long time ago that it is far better to build the ship you want rather than start by building something else with the goal of working up to what you wanted in the first place.

One of the most impressive ship models I have ever seen is a 1/75 plank-on-bulkhead wooden model of HMS Victory built by a 76 year old woman who had never built a ship model in her life.  She did a remarkable job building a very complex model!  And, she had no other build in the works to divert her attention.

Once I start a model, I do not like to be distracted by another.  It becomes an obsession with me to finish that which I have started.

Again, I apologise.

Bill Morrison

No apology required, no offense taken and if my post was rude, I apologize for that. it's an imperfect medium.

Doogs, beautiful models and you obviously know how to manage your time resources.

I would personally build both because I see battleships as the pinnacle, along with carriers, of WW2 ship building and I probably don't have too many good ones in me.

Sometimes we let what should be objective and wise counsel be clouded by personal preferences. I'm a cruiser nut.

 

Bill

 

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Posted by JMart on Sunday, October 9, 2011 4:01 PM

I know this is a late suggestion, but the old tamiya Fletcher (1:350) kit # 78012 is still a great and straightforward build. You can get comprehensive but not redundant PE sets form Eduard and TMM. kenny Loup of gator's glue sells masks for the camo schemes.

 

 

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Posted by DoogsATX on Saturday, October 8, 2011 3:35 PM

Just so we're clear...I have built ships before. It's just been a long time.

Here's Tamiya's BB-62 USS New Jersey in 80s/Desert Storm getup:

And Tamiya's CVN-65 Enterprise:

I don't know precisely with the NJ, but I built the Enterprise one summer when I was probably 13 or 14. Definitely pre-high school, but I was also old enough that my attempts weren't completely laughable.

Personally, I've found that I prefer to build concurrently. It keeps me from getting bored with a subject and lets me jump from one to the other if I have to wait on paint to dry or a part to come in or something like that. I usually try to do one aircraft/one armor, but sometimes a second plane works its way in there.

Realistically there's no way I can even think about starting the North Carolina until Thanksgiving at the earliest. But I'm not really hoping to have her done until maybe next August (I have designs on entering a ship in next year's Austin show provided I don't blow it). Pretty sure I can manage that...

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

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Posted by warshipguy on Saturday, October 8, 2011 12:42 PM

Bondoman,

I certainly meant no offense; indeed, I sincerely apologise if I gave it.  But, I learned a long time ago that it is far better to build the ship you want rather than start by building something else with the goal of working up to what you wanted in the first place.

One of the most impressive ship models I have ever seen is a 1/75 plank-on-bulkhead wooden model of HMS Victory built by a 76 year old woman who had never built a ship model in her life.  She did a remarkable job building a very complex model!  And, she had no other build in the works to divert her attention.

Once I start a model, I do not like to be distracted by another.  It becomes an obsession with me to finish that which I have started.

Again, I apologise.

Bill Morrison

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Posted by denstore on Saturday, October 8, 2011 11:31 AM

Good advice, in my opinion. I've tried both ways during the years, and the parallell building is easier to me. I loose interest in the middle even during smaller builds, like destroyers single engine aircraft or armour, so to even think of doing something like Hasegawas Akagi or Revells old Cutty Sark as a single ongoing project would probably make me quit building completely. Been there.....

Better an airbrush in the hand, than ten in the car....Stick out tongue

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Posted by bondoman on Saturday, October 8, 2011 10:59 AM

Because you are Bill Morrison and I'm not! Certainly you are right, but Doogs is new to ship models and I've found out the hard way that big ones get really boring. Hence, do several at once.

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Posted by warshipguy on Saturday, October 8, 2011 7:14 AM

Bondoman,

Why 2 years??????  It took me about 6 weeks to finish my conversion to the USS Washington.  The USS Laffey is a wonderful kit, but if you love battleships, why not build one?  Afterall, the builder uses the same skills to build either; he is more likely to finish building the ship he wants in the first place.

Bill Morrison

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Posted by bondoman on Saturday, October 8, 2011 2:28 AM

It will take you a minimum of 2 years to make that BB up.

I strongly recommend that you set yourself up with your first choice, the Laffey. You will not be sorry.

Do both at the same time, otherwise you will be bogged down in BB modeling.

Seriously,

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Posted by DoogsATX on Saturday, October 8, 2011 2:20 AM

Well...I'd been planning on the Laffey...but Great Models is having a big Trumpeter sale with the North Carolina down to $75.

So...BB-55 it is.

Think I'll take this one as a slow, ongoing build. Otherwise I might go crazy.

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, October 6, 2011 12:52 PM

Tracy & Bill: Thanks guys! Now that I know what the problems are I can make sure to brace the hull and correct the other problems as I build her if I do pick one up.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by warshipguy on Thursday, October 6, 2011 8:56 AM

That's precisely what I did to my lower hull on the North Carolina, which I converted to Washington. That is one of my favorite US battleships!

Bill

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Posted by Tracy White on Wednesday, October 5, 2011 7:01 PM

Gamera
Ouch! Thanks Tracy, I've seen quite a few of these built up at shows (I live about two hours from North Carolina) and thought about picking one up.

Well, it's not perfect but it's buildable. I'm trying to not sound like I'm dumping on it, just cautioning for people that might be really excited. It still LOOKS like North Carolina, and many people are completely happy with the kit, but some are disappointed too when they start working on that hull and find themselves having to shore the insides with wood to spread it out...

Tracy White Researcher@Large

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Posted by DoogsATX on Wednesday, October 5, 2011 3:56 PM

Manstein's revenge

Fujimi Hiryu...

Call me a homer, but my interests, ship-wise, lie pretty much exclusively with US warships and maybe, maybe the occasional Brit (Dreadnought...)

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, October 5, 2011 3:13 PM

Fujimi Hiryu...

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, October 5, 2011 2:57 PM

Ouch! Thanks Tracy, I've seen quite a few of these built up at shows (I live about two hours from North Carolina) and thought about picking one up. I had so no idea the kit had that many problems- still it's the only injection molded kit in 1/350th unless you want to pop for the expensive resin model.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Tracy White on Wednesday, October 5, 2011 2:24 PM

The waterline option is actually preferable in many ways as the Trumpeter hull upper and lower pieces fit badly; the lower piece is distorted in a way that makes it narrower than the upper piece. The first level of the superstructure is too tall (as near as I can figure they forgot to "take back" the thickness of the deck piece because it's almost exactly that much too tall) which stretches out the placement of the portholes in relationship to the watertight doors; it just looks a bit odd to me. Otherwise it's a good foundation for a conversion to Washington, and even better, there's a kit of Kirishima available as well (albeit a lot more expensive)

Tracy White Researcher@Large

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Posted by DoogsATX on Wednesday, October 5, 2011 1:49 PM

Oh man...after reading about the performance the Washington put in off Guadalcanal in Neptune's Inferno, that one's might tempting! 

Think I need to go with something a bit more manageable first (heavily leaning toward the Laffey)...but the North Carolina Class is definitely on the radar. I also especially love the waterline option!

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, October 5, 2011 1:27 PM

I'd feel bad if I didn't at least put in a plug for 'The Showboat' - the USS North Carolina BB 55 if you should decide to go 'big'.

I've been aboard her about a half dozen times and man she's a beautiful ship.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by DoogsATX on Wednesday, October 5, 2011 1:06 PM

I use Vallejo paints pretty frequently and LOVE them. Hands down my favorite acrylics.

They thin down well with Future, Vallejo's own thinner, or Testors acrylic thinner. They also thin with water, but I've had issues with that, especially through the airbrush.

Coverage is stunningly good. Vallejo brushes better than any other paint I've tried, outside of maybe artist oils. I use it for almost all of my brush painting needs.

Through the airbrush, I've had some mixed results. I've found it sprays well when thinned with Future or Testors acrylic thinner. With Future, the result is a smooth, hard, semi-gloss finish. The downsides, so far as I've found them, are that 1) the Model Color line doesn't reduce very well at all, so I'd still stick with something else for filtering work and 2) I've had problems getting them to spray in fine lines, so I'd be hesitant to use them for freehand camo.

I've also found, to my chagrin, that Microset and Microsol can eat through Future and Future-thinned Vallejo (though admittedly, after vigorous use to try to remove a decal-gone-bad).

Moving forward, I want to move more and more to Vallejo. IMO they're probably the best all-around paints on the market. 

Oh...and you can get them through Squadron, Great Models, Sprue Brothers, etc. My LHS stocks Model Color, but intermittently...last I was there the rack was pretty stripped down, no blacks or grays, tons of salmon red and lavender and whatnot.

If you check out the Dauntless in the completed builds section of my blog, it's a Vallejo job. As is the Mossie nightfighter. And the blue nose on the P-51D. And the tracks on the Panzer III.

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

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Posted by warshipguy on Wednesday, October 5, 2011 12:48 PM

Tracy,

I'll check with my LHS to see if they can get them.  I'd like to try them.

Bill

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