SEARCH FINESCALE.COM

Enter keywords or a search phrase below:

Compound curves and strip styrene?

5548 views
9 replies
1 rating 2 rating 3 rating 4 rating 5 rating
  • Member since
    February 2005
Compound curves and strip styrene?
Posted by Kevleerey on Saturday, January 28, 2012 6:09 PM

So this isn't exactly a ship, but hey. I'm building a rowboat from styrene. As you can see, I'm having more than a little trouble with the overlap and compound curves toward the front. I've never tried this before, so I figured maybe you boat people could tell me how to do this the right way. Oh, and I didn't scribe any woodgrain in either... Maybe on the other side.

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Kevin

fox
  • Member since
    January 2007
  • From: Narvon, Pa.
Posted by fox on Saturday, January 28, 2012 6:43 PM

Hi Kevin,  Its the weekend so you might have to wait for more guys to answer your question. I've built quite a few ships in my years of building. Some were the wooden kits from overseas as you can see by my avatar. I'm no expert by any means but I'll be glad to give you my 2 cents worth. First of all you should build it on a flat surface upside down. Your planks should be started one on each side so the boat will not tend to warp or twist. As you add planks, taper the ends at the bow so that they butt up against the keel smoothly and evenly and still keep adding them one to each side. The last 2 that you add will be the ones that butt against the keel and you can trim them to the size and shape you need.

The one you have in your hand looks pretty good but will need lots of putty and lots of sanding. The whole idea is to trial fit each plank as many times as necessary to get a good fit that will not need much sanding or filling and will keep the finished project straight and true.

Hope this helps you. If I can be of any more help, please feel free to PM me and I'll see what I can do for you. Good luck with your project.

Jim Captain

 

 Main WIP: 

   On the Bench: Artesania Latina  (aka) Artists in the Latrine 1/75 Bluenose II

I keep hitting "escape", but I'm still here.

  • Member since
    February 2005
Posted by Kevleerey on Saturday, January 28, 2012 8:29 PM

Thanks for the advice, got some real nice builds there. I had started with the top plank on each side to hold the shape but doing them all evenly makes more sense. On the next side I'll try trimming them to fit exactly rather than letting them overlap. I may just have to build another one to practice after I finish this one, it's quite fun!

  • Member since
    October 2005
Posted by CG Bob on Saturday, January 28, 2012 10:48 PM

The same problem occurs with wood planked boats.  The strips are extruded, milled, or cut to standard sizes.   The boat hull is made of compound curves, and requires planks that are slightly curved for the run of the plank.  A 10" wide board may yield a 7" slightly curved plank to fit the hull.  I recently built the Legend Model Boats kit of the 1963 Lyman 25' soft top sleeper - the planks were laser cut, most with a slight "S" shape in them.  A piece of 1/8" x 3" balsa would provide 2 curved planks about 3/4" wide. 

  • Member since
    January 2003
  • From: Washington, DC
Posted by TomZ2 on Saturday, January 28, 2012 11:10 PM

Try lapstrake boat structure. A very large [insert appropriate idiomatic colloquialism]!

Occasional factual, grammatical, or spelling variations are inherent to this thesis and should not be considered as defects, as they enhance the individuality and character of this document.

  • Member since
    April 2005
Posted by ddp59 on Sunday, January 29, 2012 12:56 AM

bevel the sides of each peice so that the joints between each piece is flush not v-groove.

  • Member since
    November 2009
  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Sunday, January 29, 2012 7:44 AM

What you need to do is called spiling. It means measuring the shape of a curved plank, and transferring that shape to a piece of wood or plastic.  You need to start with a wider strip than the width of the plank, or cut the plank from a sheet of styrene rather than a plank.  Find a book on building plank-on-frame and plank-on-bulkhead models.  The procedure is too involved to include in a forum message.  Or, try searching for "hull planking" and planked ship models in a good search engine.

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

  • Member since
    February 2005
Posted by Kevleerey on Monday, January 30, 2012 10:47 PM

Thanks for the advice, guys. I'll have to head on over to Google and do some research. Seems like this could be an interesting and educational project.

  • Member since
    August 2005
  • From: EG48
Posted by Tracy White on Monday, February 13, 2012 11:20 AM

With regards to the wood grain; there shouldn't be much in that scale, but I've seen some great grain done in plastic for things like wood fences or structures using cheap brass cleaning brushes:

- Miniature Building Construction in Foamboard (look about 1/3 down for the plastic section, titled "Plastic card and ‘micro-painting"

 

Tracy White Researcher@Large

  • Member since
    September 2007
  • From: Truro Nova Scotia, Canada
Posted by SuppressionFire on Monday, February 13, 2012 11:28 AM

The geometry issues have been answered.

A tip to make applying the strips easier to the curve is to attach them to a wood or such shaped the same as the hull and heat in boiling water for a few seconds so the styrene strips hold the shape of the hull.

Once cooled the strips will retain the shape. Use a large pot and avoid the edges.

 

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y211/razordws/GB%20Badges/WMIIIGBsmall.jpg

 

 

JOIN OUR COMMUNITY!

Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account.

SEARCH FORUMS
FREE NEWSLETTER
By signing up you may also receive reader surveys and occasional special offers. We do not sell, rent or trade our email lists. View our Privacy Policy.