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APL color scheme for C3 freights

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APL color scheme for C3 freights
Posted by Westpac'er on Friday, March 9, 2012 6:54 PM

Im thinking of kit bashing a Revell Hawaiian Pilot kit to either APL or United States Lines colors

Ive an idea what US Lines were. But not so sure about APL's.

Any help or advise would be useful, Thanks

 

 

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Posted by bondoman on Saturday, March 10, 2012 12:08 AM
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Posted by tankerbuilder on Saturday, March 10, 2012 6:57 AM

It depends what era you were going to portray. When I first went to sea commercially the company I worked for was very similar in color except the stacks.The colors then in effect were as follows for 1967-68. The hulls on some were a real light buff.This is a greyish buff(similiar to very well worn kahki.

The stacks were a deep/almost black blue with a red band and the eagle logo in white wrapping around the stack at the wingtips with the eagle,s body dead center of the side.This was a stylized eagle so be careful on that.The decks were like ours,a real dark reddish brown.

Be advised,the ships were not all the same color through the lines ships.Those that carried passengers as well as cargo had medium blue hulls lot of white and the stack trim.ALL had white vertical surfaces from main deck up. The hatches were sometimes covered with blue or black sea tarps.All hardware for freight handling was that very light buff or white.There was NO bootstripe on most and the bottom paint was either a very medium red or very dark red.

I hope this helps you.good luck on the project.         TANKERbuilder

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Posted by onyxman on Saturday, March 10, 2012 10:57 AM

If you go to the excellent US Maritime Commission website by Frank Gerhardt, there are numerous pictures of the C3 types.  The pics are kind of hard to find, you have to put 'gallery' into the search criteria.   Unfortunately, I don't see any color pics offhand.  Look at President Filmore, Harrison and Johnson.  They seem to be the exact subtype as the Hawaiian Pilot kit.  For US line, look for names beginning with 'American".

I think the colors in Bondo's second link are correct.  Black hulls, white superstructure and buff masts and booms.  Probably gray main decks and reddish decks around the superstructure. Some pics of APL ships on shipspotting.com show gray masts.

http://www.usmaritimecommission.de/

Fred

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Posted by bondoman on Saturday, March 10, 2012 11:50 PM

Years ago when I first worked for the architecture firm Skidmore Owings and Merrill, we built 345 California, a 50 story high rise. I drew the  conceptual floor plans and the future Ms. Bondo who I did not know at the time did the logo.

This thread reminds me of the Dollar Lines because that project was sandwiched in between the Stanley Dollar and Robert Dollar buildings, on California Street in the heart of the financial district.

APL came from the Dollar Lines.

Ms. Bondo was girlfriends with Tink Dollar, but I wander...

The financial district is a trove of beautiful old buildings full of lobbies for current and (mostly past) shipping companies. Weekend?

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Posted by Westpac'er on Sunday, March 11, 2012 12:54 AM

Thanks guys, that helped jog a few memories.

I was in the Peace Corps in India in 1967-58.  When it come time to go home, I decided to work my way back and signed on Pres. Monroe in Cochin.  The 1st Officer put me in the galley, general duty, so I rarely ventured much beyond the cabin..  As I remembered, all the cargo handling equipment was beige, but that Monroe was of a 50's design, and different class entirely. 

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Posted by onyxman on Monday, March 12, 2012 10:10 AM

This is from the Gerhardt site.  B&W, unfortunately, but it gives you a good idea how the colors were used:

http://www.usmaritimecommission.de/pictures.php?code=A0270d

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Posted by Westpac'er on Monday, March 12, 2012 10:46 AM

Thanks onyxman, that a big help;  thanks all in fact, I have a pretty good idea now. 

 

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Posted by Harper57 on Friday, February 1, 2013 8:19 PM
If you are still working on this let me know. I am planning the same project and have all the reference you'd ever need.
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