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Vintage Mayflower score
Posted by philo426 on Monday, June 11, 2012 3:04 PM

I found this 1966 vintage Mayflower on another forum for less than 20 bucks.Despite its age it is in excellent original condition  right down to the tube of Revell cement.I wonder what percentage of original kits remain uinbuilt?    

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Posted by bondoman on Monday, June 11, 2012 3:47 PM

Dunno but that's a good one. Wonderful figgies!

A number of years ago my family and I had the opportunity to visit the replica in Plymouth. As part of the display, there are re enactors which I always enjoy.

I was talking to Standish in the cabin, and he asked me where we were from?

"California"

That brought a puzzled expression to his face, so I explained that I was referring to Alta California, in New Spain

"Ah, yeh be livin' with o' bunch of Papists!"

Indeed true, and I loved that moment.

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Posted by philo426 on Monday, June 11, 2012 3:49 PM

Pretty cool! I hear the Mayflower II had a diesel engine.Nowadays the papist comment would not fly due to pc!

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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Saturday, October 4, 2014 8:30 AM

Just found the current Revell release of the Mayflower on clearance in Hobby Lobby.

Dunno if the same kit, but looks like it will be an interesting build.

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As for original kits unbuilt: I can't help but wonder how many land fills contain unbuilt versions of what are now very expensive collectible kits, thrown out by moms and dads when junior went away to college.Hmm

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Hmm.....any spare paint from the Mayflower project might be useful as colorful trim for that holiday display...........Whistling

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Saturday, October 4, 2014 9:37 AM

Don't know about plastic kits, but a friend had a discussion with a big hobby shop owner about European wood ship kits, and he believed the great majority of those kits sold were never completed.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Saturday, October 4, 2014 12:00 PM

I would not be surprisedHmm

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Posted by jtilley on Sunday, October 5, 2014 7:39 PM

Everybody I've ever known who's ever worked in a hobby shop tells the same story: only a small percentage of kits that get sold - plastic, wood, or other - ever get finished. If the hobby industry depended on kits actually being built it would go out of business in a big hurry.

That's particularly true of wood kits. I'm convinced that the HECEPOB sailing ship sector relies on the fact that people buy its kits without building them; otherwise the word of their abysmal quality would spread a lot faster.

And hobby shop folks know that the vast majority of balsa-and-tissue aircraft kits would fly like bricks if they were finished. But scarcely any of them are.

I plead guilty to responsibility for my share of this phenomenon. I have far more unfinished - and, for that matter, unstarted - kits than finished models. I rather suspect most of the other participants in this Forum are equally guilty. But we keep the manufacturers in business.

Youth, talent, hard work, and enthusiasm are no match for old age and treachery.

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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Sunday, October 5, 2014 8:00 PM

jtilley

.......... But we keep the manufacturers in business.

And producing ever more expensive and intricate replicas, too!
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Considering the intricacy of kits currently produced, I would not be surprised if some kits are left unbuilt deliberately just to gaze upon the product as designed, produced and packaged.
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I've seen some products, 1990s era medium format cameras for instance, that were packaged in such a way as to promote a luxurious aura- whether deserved or not.Whistling
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Posted by CapnMac82 on Sunday, October 5, 2014 9:23 PM

As a professor of ,mine told me long ago, "Medium format cameras are solely purchased from either passion or ego(mania)."  Having  met both "prosumers" and camera collectors (which can be durst hard to tell apart) I find the professor's statement to be ever so true.

Learned the adage "The bargain is in the 'buy' " long ago.  Which means finding a kit subject of interest, at an excellent price point is really too good to be true.  And, thus, does one more box go into the stash.

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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Monday, October 6, 2014 7:20 AM

CapnMac82

As a professor of ,mine told me long ago, "Medium format cameras are solely purchased from either passion or ego(mania)."  Having  met both "prosumers" and camera collectors (which can be durst hard to tell apart) I find the professor's statement to be ever so true.

Having seen photos of many "collector" medium format cameras ranging from gold plated Rolleiflex TLR  to gold plated and multi-hued leather bound Chinese Seagull TLR cameras , I am inclined to agree with the professor.

I would like to add that many professionals have used medium format to earn a living, though I wonder if their choice of brands was influenced  more by client perception rather than the camera's format or optical and utilitarian qualities.

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Posted by jb4406 on Monday, October 6, 2014 9:15 AM

The replica "Mayflower II" is brought to my town nearly every winter for its annual dry dock maintenance. When I was younger, I actually worked at the shipyard & worked on several original sailing ships & replicas, including the "HMS Bounty" . It was cool to see these vessels from a perspective that most people never will. Now working as a police officer, I still get to see "Mayflower II" occasionally, "up close & on the ways".

"The difficult, I do  right away. The impossible will take a little longer."

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Posted by philo426 on Friday, October 10, 2014 1:02 PM

AS you can see,wooden ship model kits are not something you can throw together in a weekend!It requires a serious commitment.   

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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Sunday, October 19, 2014 9:44 AM

In case any of you haven't visited a Hobby Lobby lately, they placed their Revell Mayflower kits on clearance for $10.79 ;several dollars cheaper than the price using a 40 pct.off coupon.

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Posted by philo426 on Sunday, October 19, 2014 6:08 PM

Thanks for the heads up!I will check it out!

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Posted by freem on Thursday, October 23, 2014 10:47 AM

Found one in Bufflalo NY while visiting my newborn granddaughter for $10,79. SCORE!! Yes indeed thanks for the heads up!!!

Not that it's ever gonna get built, but................

Chris Christenson

 

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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Thursday, October 23, 2014 1:30 PM

bump  Embarrassed

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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Thursday, October 23, 2014 1:32 PM

freem

Found one in Bufflalo NY while visiting my newborn granddaughter for $10,79. SCORE!! Yes indeed thanks for the heads up!!!

Not that it's ever gonna get built, but................

..............but it is much better having a kit in stash that cost $10.79 than $29.99
Happy I could help a fellow plastic addict.
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Posted by the Baron on Wednesday, October 29, 2014 12:17 PM

jtilley

... HECEPOB ...

I'm probably setting this up on a tee for you, JT, but what is "HECEPOB"?

The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.

 

 

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Posted by jtilley on Wednesday, October 29, 2014 1:46 PM

HECEPOB is an acronym for "Hideously Expensive Continental European Plank-On-Bulkhead." It refers to the kits produced by a number of manufacturers, mainly Spanish and Italian, that sell for hundreds and even thousands of dollars,  but are based on little or no research, made of shoddy materials, and produce models that bear little or no resemblance to real ships. Examples of HECEPOB firms are Mamoli, Corel, Sergal, and Artesania Latina (aka Artist In the Latrine) . Serious scale ship modelers generally refuse to have anything to do with them.

Youth, talent, hard work, and enthusiasm are no match for old age and treachery.

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Posted by philo426 on Wednesday, October 29, 2014 8:37 PM

Harsh Tilley!

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Posted by Mr2bill4 on Wednesday, October 29, 2014 9:01 PM

Yeah, kinda wished I'd never put on those flaky ratlines on my CS!! They don't do anything for the build. My next project will have ones I make. Even my Swan, wished I had used scratch-built ones. Famous last words....next time!

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Posted by philo426 on Friday, October 31, 2014 6:14 PM

Yeah the plastic ratlines look funky!

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